That brings me to a question I've had for a while--I'm not sure
what goes into creating a C binding for any language, but is it
possible to create a C binding to granite? If so, your proposal
would be limited only by the availability of granite bindings. On
the other hand, though I think Elementary development has a
substantial barrier of entry, I don't know Elementary's goals of
simplicity and consistency would be especially well-served by
fragmenting the tools used. On the *other* other hand, it could
also bring a lot of developer attention to the project, albeit
Elementary's relatively small community, I think it would be
difficult to find enough people to create and maintain bindings
for all of those languages. Thoughts?
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jakob Eriksson
<jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I think there should be a tutorial for writing an Elementary
HID compliant app in all popular languages, Java, Python,
C++, Go, Objective C and Ruby at least.
Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>> skrev:
>@Chris, Syntactically, I think Vala is a great language. I'm
dying to use
>it, in fact! However, until I can get over the nasty
project-management
>hump, I'm afraid I'm out of the loop. And don't think
project management
>features are useful only to building and distribution. How
can an IDE know
>which symbols are available outside of the current file (for
purposes such
>as code verification, autocompletion, etc) without knowing
something about
>what files are available to the project? Decent project
management features
>are an important aspect of a language (for all kinds of
purposes), and when
>they are missing, non-standard, or overly complex; it makes
the language
>impractical.
>
>@Sergey, I'm not confusing the two. As I mentioned in my
response to Chris,
>the two issues are linked--it's impractical to develop an
application
>without a simple, automatic project metadata management tool
and Vala
>doesn't seem to have one (I can't find _any_ information
about bake online).
>
>To address your last paragraph, I don't know what the crux
of the issue is
>(nor what the best solution is), but useful programs haven't
been single
>files for decades; it's archaic to treat the project
management concerns of
>development as an afterthought when developing languages.
Like you said,
>why expose the developer to that unnecessary complexity? I
have yet to find
>a better paradigm than Go's for mitigating that concern.
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Macnish
<nisshh.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nisshh.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>
>> Go is brilliant, it has the best parts of c and the best
parts of modern
>> languages built in.
>> On Apr 8, 2013 9:22 PM, "Craig" <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy Monday everyone,
>>>
>>> I wrote a brief comparison of Vala and Go (golang) that
might be of
>>> interest to some of you. Feel free to add your thoughts
in the comments.
>>> http://craigmatthewweber.com/2013/04/06/vala-or-go/
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Craig
>>>
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