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[Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes please don't alter the behavior of minimized windows at all. This is completely a hack and breaks things for people who just want to add the minimize button back and have it work like it used to. 

Birdie works great with hiding its window and Noise can be made to also follow this behavior by clearing its "shells" array in dconf. We should do things properly and not try to hack around legacy app behavior. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El abr 23, 2013, a las 2:23 p.m., "Sergey \"Shnatsel\" Davidoff" <sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> Rico has completed implementation of the dock part - it's already
> available in PPA - and Ubuntu One happens to support it!
> 
> Only https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gala/+spec/minimized-as-closed
> is left to do, most of which sounds quite trivial and some items are
> already implemented.
> 
> So, any objections on the design?
> 
> 2013/3/30 Nishant Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Bump.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Cassidy James <cassidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not everyone checks the list every day; for example, I'm on vacation this
>> week and haven't had the time to sit down and flesh this out. Let's keep
>> this discussion open a bit longer than two days. ;)
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2013 10:01 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff"
>> <sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any objections on this? It's about time to voice them.
>>> 
>>> If not, this should be added to the relevant HIG article,
>>> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/user-workflow/background-tasks
>>> 
>>> 2013/3/22 Nishant George Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, so the thread about Noise not complying to the HIG turned into
>>>> quite a general discussion about the HIG and background application
>>>> behaviour so I am creating this new thread with a better title to continue
>>>> it. Here's a link to the old thread:
>>>> https://lists.launchpad.net/elementary-dev-community/msg02046.html
>>>> 
>>>> Summing up, we need to think about proper ways to create and deal with
>>>> background applications, i.e, applications that don't require interaction
>>>> with the user for most or a big part of the time they are running, like mail
>>>> clients, IM clients, music players, microblogging apps, etc. Typically,
>>>> these apps don't fit well into any one task the user is performing, so it
>>>> often doesn't make sense for these applications to be bound to a particular
>>>> workspace either.
>>>> 
>>>> To this end, applications are to intelligently handle closing the window
>>>> to do whatever best suits the situation. The following could be guidelines
>>>> to what the app must do (this deals with the user-facing elements, not the
>>>> implementation)
>>>> 
>>>> "If you'd check a specific application frequently but not in reaction to
>>>> notifications it raises (e.g. group chat, even if you weren't pinged
>>>> directly) or if it has to be accessible as quickly as possible while it's
>>>> running (e.g. music player, to pause music), the app should display an icon
>>>> in the dock while it's running.
>>>> If the app is primarily brought up in reaction to a notification and if
>>>> the state of the app doesn't significantly affect its usage frequency (e.g.
>>>> microblogging client - if the user tweets often they'd pin it to dock
>>>> anyway), it should display an icon in the dock only when there are
>>>> unattended action items (e.g. new messages) along with the action item count
>>>> in the dock badge."
>>>> 
>>>> As far as implementation goes, this branch was recently merged into
>>>> plank, which enables preliminary support for batches and progress bars
>>>> without the need for an open window.
>>>> https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/plank/launcherentry-items
>>>> For hiding the window while keeping the dock icon visible, one solution
>>>> would be to make better use of minimize. The following blueprint would need
>>>> to be implemented:
>>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gala/+spec/minimized-as-closed
>>>> 
>>>> That's all folks.
>>>> 
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