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Message #02478
Re: Moving Away From Ubuntu
+1 Tricking other distros...great idea! :P
On Jul 9, 2013 3:23 PM, "Craig" <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> +1
> On Jul 9, 2013 12:03 AM, "Conscious User" <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
>> your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
>> related to what I said.
>>
>>
>> Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu:
>> > If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary
>> > video driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any
>> > non-Intel GPU user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> > My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable
>> > and eclipse any popular sentiment right now.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver
>> > <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > PPAs.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User
>> > <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm
>> > developing had
>> > some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu
>> > overlay scrollbars
>> > were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu
>> > developers, I was
>> > told that my best chance was to patch the
>> > scrollbars myself
>> > because no one was currently working on them.
>> >
>> > This is a symptom of something that, for
>> > anyone who's been
>> > following the Ubuntu developer community,
>> > should be quite
>> > evident at this point: due to the move to QML
>> > and touch, GTK
>> > and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been
>> > using will now be
>> > second-class citizens, and it is only a matter
>> > of time before
>> > this change of status starts to gradually
>> > creep into overall
>> > stability and speed of fixing bugs.
>> >
>> > This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu
>> > simply packaged
>> > and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the
>> > problem is that
>> > they ship a patched stack mixed with
>> > unpolished Ayatana
>> > projects which might now never get any more
>> > polish. And this
>> > might get worse with the move to Mir, as
>> > Canonical will probably
>> > need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by
>> > itself.
>> >
>> > My intention here is not to question any
>> > direction Canonical
>> > is taking, but to question how much it still
>> > makes sense to
>> > build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a
>> > distro that
>> > uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least
>> > one that still
>> > treats it as a first-class citizen.
>> >
>> > It might be a good time to have a serious
>> > discussion on this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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