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Re: elementary, ubuntu, and debian

 

Hi,

>In that regard, I am wondering if the team has discussed switching to
debian as the base
Yes, it has been discussed a few times, usually for other reasons
though.

It's not as simple as editing base="ubuntu" to base="debian", and
unfortunately, most of the people who ask us for it seem to think so.

>because it seems that ubuntu cares less about their users and privacy
these days.
We are using Ubuntu as a base, we don't ship
ubuntu-desktop and honestly that's where most of the criticism to
Ubuntu's lack of privacy concerns lies - the Amazon in the Dash
thing. We don't have that, so I don't really see how switching to
Debian would help us respect our users' privacy more.

Cheers,
David


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tristan Petersen <tristang4@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Sergey
>
> Glad you touched on security & privacy concerns. I am new to the
> elementary dev community, but I am wondering if there has been any talk
> among the team in this regard. I was drawn to elementary for its simplicity
> and beauty but at the same time I have strong concerns about security and
> privacy, more so in light of the NSA revelations.
>
> In that regard, I am wondering if the team has discussed switching to
> debian as the base because it seems that ubuntu cares less about their
> users and privacy these days.
>
> Cheers,
> Tristan
>
>
> On 4 February 2014, at 23:35 , Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote:
>
> > Okay, it's there and back again! I've just arrived home, got only 1 hour
> of sleep on the plane, so take everything I say in the next 18 hours with a
> grain of salt.
> >
> > FOSDEM was tons of fun! I've kicked it off by donating to GNOME - "Hey
> guys, I'm from elementary, we need you to keep up the good work on the
> libraries!", to Libre Graphics Magazine - "Oh, you're from elementary? You
> guys have some great designers!" (btw, great magazine, I definitely
> recommend it to everyone in here who's interested in design), to TOR just
> to get an awesome Snowden poster, and finally running into a guy from Jolla
> totally by accident, finding out the Jollla schedule for the day and then
> sieging him with questions - "Y U NO ship to Russia?!" and so on.
> >
> > I really look up to the ex-Nokia developers and designers who went on to
> found Jolla - Maemo was a-w-e-s-o-m-e and Sailfish is going to be even
> better! So I proceeded to attend their talk about libhybris and then their
> community roundtable (it seems my experience making distros and poking
> security has come in handy) and finally a community dinner, whee! Now I
> know everything I ever wanted about their phone, even got to play with one
> for a while. Also chatted with the developers (my N900 caused quite some
> nostalgia), plus I got a free hat with "Jolla" on it. Fanboy's dream come
> true, that!
> >
> > I kinda missed having an elementary tee, I guess I should have ordered
> one in advance. No instant props out of nowhere! Looking back, I don't
> think I ever did anything not worthy of a representative of the project
> (for once!), so hopefully next year...
> > Too bad nobody else of ours made it there - or just never told me? I'd
> love to meet you guys in person. In your absence I had to hit up random
> Mozilla guys and discussing fun stuff like Rust and Serval. When I could
> find them, anyway :(
> >
> > And man, the talks! There were just so many of them! I'll be watching
> the ones I missed later on the recordings for sure. No way you can attend
> all the interesting ones in just two days. For the security- and
> privacy-concerned like me I especially recommend the "NSA operation
> ORCHESTRA" keynote, it's great. Software archeology also, for the general
> audience. And "What's cooking in GStreamer" will be interesting to people
> who work with it.
> >
> > By the way, Brussels itself is very nice - amazing sculptures
> everywhere! A lot of lions among them, too. The royal square alone can be
> studied for hours. Definitely recommended.
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