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Re: FEniCS Tutorial at ESCO 2010

 

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:08:22PM +0200, Kristian Oelgaard wrote:
> On 28 May 2010 19:54, Andy Ray Terrel <andy.terrel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Kristian Oelgaard
> > <k.b.oelgaard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On 28 May 2010 18:35, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:18:53AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:13:48AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
> >>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:43:07AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
> >>>> >> >> Hello,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I have agreed to give a FEniCS Tutorial at ESCO 2010 [0].  If anyone
> >>>> >> >> is interested and in the area feel free to drop by.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Cool. One thing to consider would be to have a common repository for
> >>>> >> > tutorial material. I have some slides I can donate if you are
> >>>> >> > interested.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> That would be excellent.  Matt and I have a system for our
> >>>> >> presentations [0] we can model or we could just do like PETSc and put
> >>>> >> tutorials up on the webpage.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -- Andy
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> [0] http://www.bitbucket.org/aterrel/presentations
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The slides I have are in the exact same format so it should be easy to
> >>>> > merge. :-)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Where are the PETSc tutorials? Are they written in HTML? I prefer
> >>>> > writing in LaTeX.
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/tutorials/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> I think most are in latex but in some private repo.  Which is why Matt
> >>>> and I have the separate reop.
> >>>
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>>> Should we set up another launchpad project or just incorporate it in
> >>>> the fenics-doc?
> >>>
> >>> Don't know. It might clutter up that repo but it would be the easiest
> >>> option. There's an administrative overhead to creating too many lp
> >>> groups/projects.
> >>
> >> I guess it depends on how it is organised and maintained.
> >> We could have 'presentations' on the same level as 'demos', 'tutorial'
> >> and 'programmer's reference'.
> >> But what I don't want is 200+ tutorials like this:
> >>
> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_05_15
> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_23
> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_25
> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_26
> >>
> >> where 99% of the contents is the same and all the code examples are outdated.
> >>
> >> Preferably, we will have a handful of presentations which covers the
> >> essentials from FEniCS: PDEs, la, mesh etc. with up to date code
> >> examples. Then if someone needs a presentation, it's just a matter of
> >> copy/paste with some minor tweaks to direct the presentation towards a
> >> specific audience.
> >>
> >> Kristian
> >
> >
> > Okay I would be more for a separate repo then.  Tutorials should be
> > tailored to the audience which by its very nature leads to the
> > numerous versions.  Matt and I mitigate the out of date bit by having
> > (almost) every slide be an input.  Then when the slide gets used again
> > it gets updated.
> >
> > I guess if there is a good reason to also have an "official"
> > presentation, then that could be developed in parallel.
>
> So would it be an idea to have the 'code slides' in the fenics-doc
> repo, and then you can pull those bits that you need?
>
> Kristian

That sounds inconvenient and there's big chance slides won't be
updated in the common repo after someone has put together the
presentation (since that requires an extra step).

So let's do a separate repo. I need to think of where. Any
suggestions?

--
Anders


> > -- Andy
> >
> >>
> >>> What does Kristian say? Garth?
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