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Re: FEniCS Tutorial at ESCO 2010

 

On 28 May 2010 21:10, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:08:22PM +0200, Kristian Oelgaard wrote:
>> On 28 May 2010 19:54, Andy Ray Terrel <andy.terrel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Kristian Oelgaard
>> > <k.b.oelgaard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> On 28 May 2010 18:35, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:18:53AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
>> >>>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:13:48AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
>> >>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:43:07AM -0500, Andy Ray Terrel wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> Hello,
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> I have agreed to give a FEniCS Tutorial at ESCO 2010 [0].  If anyone
>> >>>> >> >> is interested and in the area feel free to drop by.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Cool. One thing to consider would be to have a common repository for
>> >>>> >> > tutorial material. I have some slides I can donate if you are
>> >>>> >> > interested.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> That would be excellent.  Matt and I have a system for our
>> >>>> >> presentations [0] we can model or we could just do like PETSc and put
>> >>>> >> tutorials up on the webpage.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> -- Andy
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> [0] http://www.bitbucket.org/aterrel/presentations
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The slides I have are in the exact same format so it should be easy to
>> >>>> > merge. :-)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Where are the PETSc tutorials? Are they written in HTML? I prefer
>> >>>> > writing in LaTeX.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/tutorials/index.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think most are in latex but in some private repo.  Which is why Matt
>> >>>> and I have the separate reop.
>> >>>
>> >>> ok.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Should we set up another launchpad project or just incorporate it in
>> >>>> the fenics-doc?
>> >>>
>> >>> Don't know. It might clutter up that repo but it would be the easiest
>> >>> option. There's an administrative overhead to creating too many lp
>> >>> groups/projects.
>> >>
>> >> I guess it depends on how it is organised and maintained.
>> >> We could have 'presentations' on the same level as 'demos', 'tutorial'
>> >> and 'programmer's reference'.
>> >> But what I don't want is 200+ tutorials like this:
>> >>
>> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_05_15
>> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_23
>> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_25
>> >> demonstrating_poisson_at_foo_conference_by_bar_2010_07_26
>> >>
>> >> where 99% of the contents is the same and all the code examples are outdated.
>> >>
>> >> Preferably, we will have a handful of presentations which covers the
>> >> essentials from FEniCS: PDEs, la, mesh etc. with up to date code
>> >> examples. Then if someone needs a presentation, it's just a matter of
>> >> copy/paste with some minor tweaks to direct the presentation towards a
>> >> specific audience.
>> >>
>> >> Kristian
>> >
>> >
>> > Okay I would be more for a separate repo then.  Tutorials should be
>> > tailored to the audience which by its very nature leads to the
>> > numerous versions.  Matt and I mitigate the out of date bit by having
>> > (almost) every slide be an input.  Then when the slide gets used again
>> > it gets updated.
>> >
>> > I guess if there is a good reason to also have an "official"
>> > presentation, then that could be developed in parallel.
>>
>> So would it be an idea to have the 'code slides' in the fenics-doc
>> repo, and then you can pull those bits that you need?
>>
>> Kristian
>
> That sounds inconvenient and there's big chance slides won't be
> updated in the common repo after someone has put together the
> presentation (since that requires an extra step).
>
> So let's do a separate repo. I need to think of where. Any
> suggestions?

There used to be  a bunch of old presentation on www.fenics.org, but I
guess that we don't want to put it there (for the same reason as we
moved to Launchpad).

Kristian

> --
> Anders
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>
>> > -- Andy
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> What does Kristian say? Garth?
>> >>>
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