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[Lukasz Oles <loles@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sometimes installing system from ISO is not possible or really hard to do.
In Mirantis OpenStack Express project, in SoftLayer data centers,
installing from ISO is possible but it can't be done in automate way.
Possibility to install Fuel from packages would be awesome.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Mike Scherbakov
<mscherbakov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Folks,
> what are the use cases for this?
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Oleg Gelbukh <ogelbukh@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Vladimir,
>>
>> FWIW, I also think this is absolutely viable idea. Moreover, it would be
>> useful if parts of Fuel could be built, installed and used separately from
>> each other.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg Gelbukh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
>> vkozhukalov@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> Great to know that at least one person (except me) thinks it is a viable
>>> idea to make user able to deploy master node not depending on ISO.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, both deb and rpm packages can run arbitrary scripts during
>>> post-installation stage. And I remember when Ubuntu came out with their
>>> Juju based openstack deployment scheme they used to rely totally on deb
>>> post install scripts during deployment their Cobbler+Juju master node.
>>> Besides, at least when you use deb packages it is possible to interact with
>>> user using debconf dialog.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Docker containers seem to be an appropriate solution for this
>>> use case, at least in a short term perspective.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Matthew Mosesohn <
>>> mmosesohn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vladimir,
>>>>
>>>> This may be achievable as part of my work with moving Fuel master node
>>>> services into individual Docker containers. See my blueprint here:
>>>>
>>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-containerization-of-services
>>>>
>>>> One big advantage of using these containers is you could use any Linux
>>>> OS (with network namespaces support) to host these containers.
>>>>
>>>> The only concern I have with trying to install on an existing server
>>>> is to make sure that there are no services listening on the ports we
>>>> need to use for Fuel master (such as an existing web server).
>>>>
>>>> Installing Fuel from packages, however, would be really great for
>>>> upstream distributions who think our code is cool enough to ship in
>>>> mainstream OSes. The biggest drawback is we tune and apply changes to
>>>> lots of services (Cobbler, rabbitMQ, postgres) in ways that really
>>>> should never be done from a package manager. Instead, we would need to
>>>> distribute a big script that an admin runs after install to apply the
>>>> needed configuration. This script could be still in puppet, of course.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>> <vkozhukalov@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > All,
>>>> >
>>>> > There is an interesting use case we do not cover at the moment. What
>>>> if
>>>> > someone wants to deploy master node on a server which is already in
>>>> use and
>>>> > has OS installed on it. Would it be great to have the possibility to
>>>> deploy
>>>> > master node from packages just running a script?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > What do you think about it?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>> >
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