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[Vladimir Zhbanov <vzhbanov@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 09:50:51AM +0200, Ivan Stankovic wrote:
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> I'm not a fan of numerous branches either, but maybe in this case
> the situation would not be that bad?  Maybe one could keep xorn
> on a branch until the integration problems get fixed up?
Yep.

For me it would be even enough (if other devs will keep to insist on
having it in the repo) to have a new configure option, say
--disable-xorn, to avoid the dependency on Python. 
> 
> > > Heh, if we waited until all the windows "complications" were resolved,
> > > we'd never release anything ;-)
> > 
> > Look, I worked on it for half a year, and had a progress. Then my plan
> > was to make an unstable release and let Windows users see it, then a
> > bug-fix release, to have a bit more stable version. Now, when geda-gaf
> > builds also without problems on *BSD, it would be the most appropriate
> > moment.  But you move in an experimental stuff, making things to be in
> > flux again, and drive me into a corner.
> 
> I don't think that's fair to DJ.  FWIW, I tend to agree with him, there
> won't be any progress unless *something* is done.  Whether something
> is good or bad in the end may not be obvious.  Personally, I haven't
> tried xorn but am willing to try.  I guess there are other people as well.
> Making it more easy for people to try it out and see for themselves
> will improve the kind of feedback we get on the -user list.

I don't think it's fair to currently working developers to present them
with a fait accompli that the stuff they're working on will be thrown out
and replaced with something 'more perfect' that nobody uses yet.

As far as you anyways need to compile it yourself, I see no reason of
merging it into mainline yet.
> 
> Also, if you've got a release ready already, just do it, without xorn.  I
> certainly do not see any technical problems standing in the way.

I've planned to start next week (I'll be busy with unrelated things on
the weekend) after this issue will be solved and maybe I'll get
approval, advices and some other help I'll need of other devs.
> 
> And by the way, the very fact that there is a discussion on the -dev list again
> makes me optimistic.

Thanks,
  Vladimir