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[Bilal Akhtar <bilalakhtar@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Umm, looks like you didn't understand the different branches comcept of
Debian.

Debian has 4 branches of development:

1) Stable: The stable-most thing out there, but also highly outdated.

2) Testing: Quite new, quite stable, gets frozen to become a stable
release (You probably know that well).

3) Unstable: The branch that's never frozen. Somewhat unstable, but
still highly usable. All developments, and all new uploads hit Unstable
first, where they get tested for 10 days before moving to testing.

------------ separator -------------- (Because stuff from experimental
doesn't move on to Unstable, it has to be moved manually).

4) Last but not the least, experimental. Highly unstable. Its used just
to test packages before they hit unstable.

GNOME3 is lying in experimental for a while now, and you can use GNOME3
in unstable by just using the GNOME debs from experimental on unstable.

In your case it'll make much more sense to  base your distro on
unstable, and have the system set up like this:

1) /etc/apt/sources.list contains both unstable and experimental lines.

2) /etc/apt/preferences.d/gnome contains text from:
http://pastebin.com/3zXts1W8

Upgrade and you have GNOME3 on Debian!

So this achieves all you need, you get a rolling release (unstable is
rolling, and never frozen, stuff's always bleeding edge. If something's
slightly old, you can look over and copy the relevant deb from
experimental). You get apt. You won't need to re-build everything from
scratch.

Cheers,
Bilal Akhtar.

On Monday 16 May 2011 03:52 PM, fabrice quenneville wrote:
> Hi Rodrigo,
> 
> Because we believe a Rolling Release is the way to go for simplicity a
> desktop use should NEVER have to reinstall. We believe releases either
> push the developers too hard and brings bugs (Ubuntu)  OR freeze for too
> long and end up stagnating (Debian)(This is just a point of view, its a
> question of taste and choice, i guess theres a need for everything). We
> want to be the middle ground, bug / time / package feature release.
> 
> Debian is beautiful where it can offer the most sable
> do-it-all easily distro. From the HPC to the netbook, but the fact that
> they wont integrate some key closed source parts hinders it towards its
> competitors. We dont mind SOME closed source software, so we will have
> the few missing features to make the desktop environment more attractive
> to both the open minded Linux users (i believe block ALL closed source
> software is as bad as saying open-source is evil and will destroy the
> world) we will just inform the user and offer an easy way to opt-out and
> remove it.
> 
> We are unique and needed, we are the middle ground. And at the end of
> the day if we can get a few windows users to switch over isnt that good
> for everyone ?
> 
> cheers
> 
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Rodrigo Moya
> <rodrigo.moya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rodrigo.moya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 02:09 -0400, fabrice quenneville wrote:
>     > Hi Rodrigo,
>     >
>     >
>     > As i said earlier i cant agree with some of Mark Shuttleworth's
>     > decisions. I also dont really like the pushed release schedule and am
>     > more a fan of the ARCH (but we like apt!) way of doing things, a
>     > rolling release where we give new features to our users when they are
>     > ready without pushing the programmers and breaking the users system
>     > with instability. I also dont like the whole Banshee thing. We intend
>     > to make the installer slightly different too offering the user
>     > more options.
>     >
>     ok, then why not help the Debian project instead of starting your own
>     distribution?
> 
>     As I said before, do whatever is best, but IMO one thing that we have
>     too many in free software is distributions. So, if you don't like the
>     Canonical way of doing things, you can join the Debian project, which
>     does exactly what you described
> 
>     cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> **Fabrice Quenneville**
> 
> fabrice@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:fabrice@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> 
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