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[meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

2012/3/25 Bertrand Rousseau <bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx>

> 2012/3/25 Radina Matic <radina.matic@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > After working some more with the daily GTG build, I have more questions,
> > comments and suggestions:
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Is there any special reason that the item "Backends" stands alone inside
> the
> > menu Edit? It seems to me that, since Backends are optional features of
> GTG,
> > they should be visible as another tab in the Preferences window just like
> > Plugins...
>
> I can't remember any specific reason (maybe someone else does).
>
> IMHO, it's there because it's more visible. Conceptually, its place is
> next to the plugins, indeed. Another solution would be to put the
> plugins in the menu too. I guess this should be decided by favoring
> consistency among GNOME app. Is there some kind of GNOME policy for
> this?
>

The guidance I'm seeing in GNOME 3 HIG so far for this is here.
<https://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/HIG3/EditableLists>
The editable lists template would most likely apply to the submenu, though,
rather than the tab in the main UI.

For handling the edit menu, there is some guidance
here<https://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/HIG3/Configuration>.

IMO, I think we need to ask about this, however, since the page is not yet
complete and is marked as experimental.

Meg


> If both functionalities are put in the preference dialog, than we
> should make sure to advertise them right so that users don't miss it
> (those are significant GTG features).
>
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Preferences window:
> >
> > I propose to rename the tab "Behaviour" into "General", and rename the
> label
> > "General" into "Startup".
>
> Works for me.
>
> > -----
> >
> > Suggestions for the items in the Main Menu > Help
> >
> > - Contents F1 (should open the Mallard Help in the making ;)
> > - Get Help Online... (should link to GTG Wiki page)
> > - Translate GTG into your Language (should link to Launchpad
> Translations)
> > - Report a Problem (not sure it should open Apport or link to Launchpad
> > Bugs)
>
> It should link to launchpad.
>
> > - About (same as now but copyright info should be updated)
>
> Good point. Could you file a bug about this?
>
>
> Thanks again for your work!
>
> Regards,
>
> Bertrand
>
> >
> > ------
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Radina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/3/23 Izidor Matušov <izidor.matusov@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I started working on a branch to apply you string modifications. It's
> late
> >> here, I would finish it tomorrow or after weekend. I am sharing my few
> >> suggestions bellow.
> >>
> >> Am 23.03.2012 03:24, schrieb Radina Matic:
> >>
> >>> Bertrand, I am glad that my comments will make GTG more usable :)
> >>>
> >>> These details are easier to catch for somebody with less programming
> >>> knowledge like me, as I am closer to the point of view of the ordinary
> >>> user...
> >>>
> >>> To make the my replies clearer (replying on mailing lists often gets so
> >>> messy) I'll strip the text to just the important bits:
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------
> >>>  > 39.
> >>>
> >>> Actually the subject of this phrase is automatically added with
> >>> "self.software.title()" in the code. It should thus read something
> >>> like: "Tomboy was found on the system, but it (...)". So I guess this
> >>> string is ok.
> >>>
> >>>  > was found on the system, but it does not provide a DBUS interface
> >>> which is
> >>>  > required by the Tomboy/Gnote plugin.
> >>>
> >>> This is perfect!
> >>
> >>
> >> It seems that according official pages [0], it is written as D-Bus. I
> >> would use D-Bus or DBus, but not DBUS because it feels like shouting.
> >>
> >>
> >> 0: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> ------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Ok, now that I know that "self.software.title()" in the code will
> result
> >>> in app name (Tomboy in this case) then I would rephrase the string
> again:
> >>>
> >>> program seems to be installed on your system, but it does not provide a
> >>> DBUS interface which is required by the Tomboy/Gnote plugin in GTG.
> >>
> >>
> >> I updated the string to be:
> >>
> >> message_format = _("%s seems to be installed on your "
> >>
> >>   "system, but it does not provide a DBUS interface "
> >>   "which is required by the Tomboy/Gnote plugin "
> >>   "in GTG.") % self.software.title()
> >>
> >> It should produce strings:
> >>  "Tomboy seems to be ..."
> >>  "Gnote seems to be ..."
> >>
> >> Is that what you asked for?
> >>
> >>> It's actually more of a synchronization service. It's a specific
> >>> category of optional features that are kind of distinct of plugins.
> >>> But I agree that this might be confusing. That would certainly require
> >>> some discussion. This could be done during the ongoing redesign
> >>> effort.
> >>>
> >>> Right now, for the sake of consistency, I'd leave it that way. If we
> >>> were to adopt "plugins" for instance, then we would also have to
> >>> change the UI a bit (right now those features have separate UI
> >>> spaces).
> >>> --------------------
> >>>
> >>> I understand, and I am not proposing to necessarily get rid of it
> >>> altogether, just to explain it better. So, if it is kind of a
> >>> synchronization service (which is fairly understandable), why not call
> >>> it "*backend **synchronization service*". It may be long, but it is
> >>>
> >>> clearer. I know that KISS is mantra, but sometimes longer is better...
> ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to be nitpicking but there are also just import or
> read-only
> >> backends: fetch the list of bugs assigned to me, import unread e-mails,
> >> import articles from RSS and so on => just one way.
> >>
> >> Synchronization means both ways: I get some tasks, modify them and send
> >> them away. Although it wouldn't be correct, probably everybody would use
> >> just synchronization backends... ehm.. services.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Anyway, I do not think there is any significant difference in meaning,
> >>> and the point is to choose one way of calling a certain feature and
> >>> stick with it everywhere: main menu, contextual menus and the app
> window.
> >>
> >>
> >> Software is evolving over the time. Maybe somebody added a new menu item
> >> and didn't check the capitalization, used a synonym, etc. If you find
> any
> >> other glitch, just report it - I am willing to correct it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>  > 267. "Make a Task" - is this different from "New Task"?
> >>>
> >>> I can't seem to find where this string is used...
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't either, maybe it is an obsolete part of the code?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, it is unused code. Thanks for pointing it out.
> >>
> >> Izidor
> >>
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