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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

Do we really need to change the default?  All this will do is change
which group of users complains about the default setting.  The reason we
changed this is that some users wanted the menu bitmaps even on
platforms where it is recommended not to use them.  I just don't see any
benefit to making this change.  Is it that difficult for users to check
or uncheck the menu bitmap setting according to their preference?

Wayne

On 9/12/2017 8:56 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> Hi Diogo,
> thanks for point it our. This has been fixed in a patch that is
> currently in the pipeline.
> 
> Cheers
> Fabrizio
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Diogo Condeço <diogocondeco@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:diogocondeco@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     While personally I won't use icons in the menus if that option is
>     available to me, I can see why someone would like to use them. 
> 
>     I can see it being useful to identify actions visually, but with
>     that in mind, I can't understand why having icons and reusing them
>     on different functions would help anyone. I've attached a screenshot
>     where the same icon is used for 3 different actions....
> 
>     BR,
>     Diogo
> 
>     On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
>     <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:majopela@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>         I personally (as a user) find the icons visually more intuitive.
>         Specially for newcomers and better adoption of KiCad.
> 
>         I know it's out of some guidelines, but this is a very complex
>         software.
> 
>         My feeling is that it's better with a "on" by default setting,
>         as long as people already used to the software, or not liking
>         icons could disable them.
> 
>         On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Michael Kavanagh
>         <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>         wrote:
> 
>             Hi,
> 
>             Sorry to bring this up again, but for me icons are still
>             enabled by default on macOS (and Windows unsurprisingly). I
>             deleted /Library/Application Support/kicad,
>             ~/Library/Preferences/kicad and /Applications/Kicad,
>             reinstalled from most recent nightly (07-Sep-2017) and the
>             icons were there upon startup.
> 
>             I think the problem was the default value was true when the
>             key wasn't found (ie for new install),
>             see http://docs.wxwidgets.org/trunk/classwx_config_base.html#a93b700301e0b73f1b42f14497f2e6bc7
>             <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/trunk/classwx_config_base.html#a93b700301e0b73f1b42f14497f2e6bc7>
> 
>             I have attached a patch to turn icons off by default on all
>             platforms (doing away with "ugly" #if defined()/#endif). I
>             think this would be preferable as per both the macOS and
>             Windows guidelines. I am unfamiliar with Linux UI's but if
>             Linux users want the icons enabled by default the #if will
>             have to be added again.
> 
>             Cheers,
>             Michael
> 
> 
>             On 13 April 2017 at 18:51, Wayne Stambaugh
>             <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>                 Simon,
> 
>                 I committed your patch since osx expects the icons to be
>                 disabled by
>                 default.
> 
>                 Thanks,
> 
>                 Wayne
> 
>                 On 4/8/2017 6:42 AM, Simon Wells wrote:
>                 > Please see attached patch to disable icons in the menus by default on osx
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
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