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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

Simon,

I agree that we should not use wxGrid for such a dialog. Other wx classes
are somewhat harder to use but provide a much better interface (once you
get them right).

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> would it not be better to use one of the types that uses native tables
> rather than wxgrid? what is wxgrid giving you that the native tables aren't?
>
>
> On 12/11/2017, at 13:44, Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> This is a fantastic idea, I think that your mock up has a lot of good UX
> improvements.
>
> In particular I like the idea of "active" for each library. You then do
> not have to find a library once you have removed it from the table, only
> tick "active". Brilliant.
>
> Regarding the "advanced options" button, why not have an extra button
> (next to Add / Remove / etc) which says "Edit". Clicking on this brings up
> a dialog for the selected library with all extra options...
>
> Should the footprints / symbols / etc / all appear in the same list? I
> like the idea of a single library preferences dialog, but what if the
> various library types were separated by a panel on the left hand side, as
> is common in many preferences windows?  I'm thinking of Eclipse as an
> example.
>
> Here is an example of something I have in a development branch (that has
> been wanting my attention for some time). The core code to make this dialog
> style is pretty solid, so I could share that part with you if you think
> this is a good idea.
>
>
> <image.png>
>
> I'm thinking that the window above would be adapted to have in the left
> column:
>
> "Library Options"
> "Symbol Libraries"
> "Footprint Libraries"
>
> Overall I am really behind your idea :)
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski <
> tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Now that we have the new library table system in the schematic editor
>> (may thanks Wayne!), we also have the library table dialog to configure
>> the tables.
>>
>> For many users - including myself - these dialogs are a bit too complex.
>>  A few days ago I asked the Polish Kicad community of what users find
>> annoying and the complexity of the library manager window was heavily
>> criticized. The main points were exposing too many advanced functions
>> straight away (such as special configuration options for each plugin)
>> and requiring the user to type in the library paths by hand or paste
>> them instead of selecting the files with a browser. Currently I prefer
>> editing the lib-table files by hand instead of using the GUI.
>>
>> I believe that the introduction of the new library system into eeschema
>> is a good chance to consolidate the library management UI and improve
>> Kicad's User Experience. In the attachment, you'll find the example
>> design of simplified library setup dialog, with some remarks and
>> comments. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> PS1. I haven't started coding yet - this is just a mockup.
>> PS2. The current library table dialog will remain accessible if the user
>> selects the 'show advanced options' checkbox - so if some of you prefer
>> the current UI, it's not going to disappear :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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