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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 11/11/2017 07:51 PM, Oliver Walters wrote:
> Simon,
> 
> I agree that we should not use wxGrid for such a dialog. Other wx
> classes are somewhat harder to use but provide a much better interface
> (once you get them right).

I'm not opposed to using any UI element that improves the user
experience but I disagree with your assumptions about wxGrid.  wxGrid is
very feature rich but requires a *lot* of extra coding to be really user
friendly.  We typically do not provide this primarily because of the
effort involved.

> 
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:swel024@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     would it not be better to use one of the types that uses native
>     tables rather than wxgrid? what is wxgrid giving you that the native
>     tables aren't?
> 
> 
>>     On 12/11/2017, at 13:44, Oliver Walters
>>     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Tom,
>>
>>     This is a fantastic idea, I think that your mock up has a lot of
>>     good UX improvements. 
>>
>>     In particular I like the idea of "active" for each library. You
>>     then do not have to find a library once you have removed it from
>>     the table, only tick "active". Brilliant.
>>
>>     Regarding the "advanced options" button, why not have an extra
>>     button (next to Add / Remove / etc) which says "Edit". Clicking on
>>     this brings up a dialog for the selected library with all extra
>>     options...
>>
>>     Should the footprints / symbols / etc / all appear in the same
>>     list? I like the idea of a single library preferences dialog, but
>>     what if the various library types were separated by a panel on the
>>     left hand side, as is common in many preferences windows?  I'm
>>     thinking of Eclipse as an example.
>>
>>     Here is an example of something I have in a development branch
>>     (that has been wanting my attention for some time). The core code
>>     to make this dialog style is pretty solid, so I could share that
>>     part with you if you think this is a good idea.
>>
>>
>>     <image.png>
>>
>>     I'm thinking that the window above would be adapted to have in the
>>     left column:
>>
>>     "Library Options"
>>     "Symbol Libraries"
>>     "Footprint Libraries"
>>
>>     Overall I am really behind your idea :)
>>
>>     On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski
>>     <tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx <mailto:tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear colleagues,
>>
>>         Now that we have the new library table system in the schematic
>>         editor
>>         (may thanks Wayne!), we also have the library table dialog to
>>         configure
>>         the tables.
>>
>>         For many users - including myself - these dialogs are a bit
>>         too complex.
>>          A few days ago I asked the Polish Kicad community of what
>>         users find
>>         annoying and the complexity of the library manager window was
>>         heavily
>>         criticized. The main points were exposing too many advanced
>>         functions
>>         straight away (such as special configuration options for each
>>         plugin)
>>         and requiring the user to type in the library paths by hand or
>>         paste
>>         them instead of selecting the files with a browser. Currently
>>         I prefer
>>         editing the lib-table files by hand instead of using the GUI.
>>
>>         I believe that the introduction of the new library system into
>>         eeschema
>>         is a good chance to consolidate the library management UI and
>>         improve
>>         Kicad's User Experience. In the attachment, you'll find the
>>         example
>>         design of simplified library setup dialog, with some remarks and
>>         comments. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated!
>>
>>         Tom
>>
>>         PS1. I haven't started coding yet - this is just a mockup.
>>         PS2. The current library table dialog will remain accessible
>>         if the user
>>         selects the 'show advanced options' checkbox - so if some of
>>         you prefer
>>         the current UI, it's not going to disappear :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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