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[Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Wayne-

What about a "sub-version" tag?  KiCad can write it to the file but 
doesn't need to parse it.  We reset it to 0 with each file version 
update and then increment the subversion anytime we need to change the 
file formatting.  External parsers that care about formatting can use 
it.

-Seth

Am 2019-05-16 08:40, schrieb Wayne Stambaugh:
> Rene,
>
> It's probably a bit late now but Jeff's assessment is correct.  I
> understand your concern but technically this doesn't change the file
> format when spaces are used in strings it just makes it obvious that 
> the
> information in the file is used as a string.  I'm not opposed to
> changing the file version but I'm not sure it buys us anything.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 5/5/19 4:29 AM, Rene Pöschl wrote:
> > Even if the current kicad versions can read it it still makes problems
> > with version control.
> >
> > For that reason i would request a file format verion update on any
> > change to the file generation at least for library assets as it has
> > direct impact on the library maintainance!
> > It makes it near to impossible to easily identify changes made by the
> > contributor compared to changes made by the new file format algorithm.
> >
> > The reason for my report is:
> > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-footprints/pull/815/commits/624037c1ca388506fca4d1d5b6b42e9f68157470
> > Now tell me which changes where made by the user on purpose and which
> > where introduced by the algorithm change.
> >
> > I would simply suggest the following rule to be added to the release
> > policy: Have a set of reference files. Save them without doing actual
> > changes. If git detects a change in the resulting files than a file
> > format change did happen and needs to be clearly indicated.
> >
> > On 21/04/19 18:46, Jeff Young wrote:
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > KiCad will read them in either way (quoted or un-quoted).
> > >
> > > KiCad has always written them out with quotes if they had spaces in
> > > them (so other tools have always needed to handle quotes).
> > >
> > > We’re just being more consistent now as there’s no justification for
> > > “saving a few characters” in this day and age (and going forward it
> > > will make things easier).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jeff.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 21 Apr 2019, at 17:25, Kevin Cozens <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 15 Apr 2019, at 13:56, easyw <easyw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > recently I have noticed that both kicad_pcb and kicad_mod seems to
> > > > > have changed their format.
> > > > > It have been introduced double quotes for layers pads etc.
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > (layers
> > > > >     (0 F.Cu signal)
> > > > >     (31 B.Cu signal)
> > > > >
> > > > > (layers
> > > > >     (0 "F.Cu" signal)
> > > > >     (31 "B.Cu" signal)
> > > > When I was asking about an updated file format document I was told
> > > > "There have been virtually no changes to the file format other than
> > > > how symbol library links are defined for a very long time."
> > > >
> > > > I consider it a file format change if quotes weren't needed before
> > > > but they are now. It is the type of information I need to be sure 
> > > > I'm
> > > > generating files in the proper format to avoid possibly having to go
> > > > through the migration process.
> > > >
> > > > There may be other change(s) I may need to know about because the
> > > > version number in the files has been bumped since the current file
> > > > format doc was written. The files I'm generating are a version 
> > > > behind
> > > > and have to go through a migration process when I try and open them.
> > > > I don't fully trust the migration process.
> > > >
> > > > I hope someone can update the docs after KiCon, or perhaps someone
> > > > can point me to which file(s) generate the schematic files used by
> > > > eeschema.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Kevin.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ve3syb.ca/              ; | "Nerds make the shiny things 
> > > > that
> > > > https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, 
> > > > and
> > > >                                     | that's why we're powerful"
> > > > Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172          |
> > > > #include <disclaimer/favourite>     |             --Chris Hardwick
> > > >
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