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Message #41080
Re: Ratsnest options
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To:
Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>, Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From:
Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:18:52 -0400
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On 6/14/19 7:21 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
> Hi Seth,
>
> See below:
>
>> On 14 Jun 2019, at 00:22, Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-06-13 10:26, Jeff Young wrote:
>>> So I’ll be the contrary one.
>>> First, I do agree with getting the number of access points down.
>>> However, I find myself turning the ratsnest on and off a lot. And the
>>> toolbar is /much/ easier than the layers palette for that.
>>> As far as Preferences, I agree that it’s the right place for
>>> curved/straight (well, actually I’d be inclined to just offer
>>> curved, but I already lost that fight). But why have shown/not shown
>>> in preferences? And for that matter units and coordinates. These
>>> aren’t really set-and-forget types of things, and the options
>>> toolbar is both easier to access and more visible for inspection.
>>> So how about removing in/mm and polar/cartesian from Preferences (and
>>> leaving them and ratsnest on/off in the options toolbar), rather than
>>> moving ratsnest on/off to Preferences?
>>
>>
>> OK. It sounds like we are in agreement that the ratsnest on/off
>> doesn't belong in preferences but curved and probably show-on-move
>> settings do.
>>
>> I'll take global ratsnest out of preferences and take the curved icon
>> off of the left bar. Can I also remove global ratsnest options from
>> the View menu?
>
> The View menu is more accessible for sight impaired users. That said, I
> think our story is pretty weak there anyway, so it may be a moot point.
>
>>
>> @Jeff- What if I added hotkey handling for toggling view items like
>> the ratsnest? Would that address the rapid switch issue?
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> (1) yes, a hotkey would be great (2) no, I don’t think it would
> substitute for a toolbar icon.
>
>>
>> I'd like to put in/mm in the board settings (for the current board)
>> and remove it from the preferences panel and side toolbar. You can
>> already set the grid to inches/mm so switching the display units is
>> less likely (I think) and would usually be on a per-project-basis.
>
> I still like the toolbar icon here too. I got back and forth constantly
> because I use metric dimensions for my board outlines, mounting holes,
> etc., but a lot of the footprints I use are in mils.
I'm siding with Jeff on the units toolbar button. I frequently switch
between imperial and metric units. I definitely would not want this
removed from the footprint editor.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>>
>> Best-
>> Seth
>
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