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Message #42125
Re: Do Not Fit
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To:
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From:
Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:32:26 -0400
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I understand your frustration but I'm currently working on the new file
format so I am not interested in adding a new feature to the current
schematic file format. This feature is already rolled into the new
schematic file format. I should have most of this work complete by the
end of the year so it makes no sense to divert resources from the new
file format development to test and maintain the proposed changes to the
current file format. The current file format is frozen permanently so
that we can focus on the new format.
Cheers,
Wayne
On 9/19/19 9:21 AM, Dino Ghilardi wrote:
> +1 on this
>
> I usually work-around the problem setting the component value to "NM" or
> "Not mounted" or "Don't mount" , but this is sub-optimal and needs more
> work to update the bom and the place files.
>
> The only suggestion I have is to make translatable or configurable the
> shown string on the schematic and layout printed/plotted files (I mean
> the files that are intended to be read mostly by humans): may be in
> different countries the DNF or NC or NM have a different meaning.
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>
> This "do not fit" flag would be a solution simpler than fully implement
> the "assembly variants" (with a single schematic where "don't fit"
> components and even the component value value depend on "assembly
> version"), but it would make life easier on a lot of projects.
>
> The full "assembly variants" implementation would probably require
> changing the file format having a list of values for every component and
> a list of allowed variant, so this seems in the far (far) future (but
> may be I'm wrong).
>
> Once the "don't fit" information is available both to pcbnew and
> eeschema, future (and indipendent from this) developments could also
> have "big red ugly cross" over dnf components in the assembly drawings
> (or something like that), graying-out the DNF components in eeschema etc...
>
> On 19/09/19 12:47, Oliver Walters wrote:
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>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Almost a year ago now I suggested a feature addition, allowing for
>> marking parts in the schematic as "DO NOT FIT"
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>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg38415.html
>>
>> I had made a lot of progress towards feature completion, however was
>> told at the time that such a feature would not be accepted.
>>
>> A year later, and after a lot of frustration of sending the wrong
>> files out for manufacturer due to confusion about which parts are
>> fitted, I'd like to raise the issue again.
>>
>> Currently parts are marked as "DNF" by setting a special field in the
>> BOM and checking for this with a special export script.
>>
>> However, I feel (and I'm sure many would agree) that this information
>> should be integral to the schematic representation itself. Some other
>> EDA packages achieve this quite well.
>>
>> I presented a way to achieve this without breaking backwards
>> compatibility with the file format.
>>
>> If the "new" file format is still far in the future, can this feature
>> be considered again?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Oliver
>>
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