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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Carsten,

Can you make a PR for the download page that looks like what you want?

You seem to understand that users won't read a wall of text on the download
page, and any instructions need to be extremely succinct.  I would gladly
advocate for a good PR for the download page.

Adam

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 7:52 AM Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Am 25.04.20 um 12:58 schrieb Nick Østergaard:
> > I don't think we gain anything by adding more complexity to the
> > download page. It is after all just a download page.
>
> I can't follow your reasoning here. Please pick up the users there they
> are and not there you think they are.
> Writing some good explanations even for the MacOS users isn't that hard
> I'd say.
>
> > If we really need to do very step-by-step and verbose explanations for
> > those can't can't read the README in the installer,
>
> Well, you've wrote "in the installer", so users might have some chicken
> / egg problem here. You know you've done it wrong if you have broken it.
> It doesn't help users if you say them afterwards they did it wrong, this
> something they already know. Writing up same sharped sentences for MacOS
> users on the Download page what they need to do right before they start
> to download anything is better. Try to have a view from a users point of
> view who hasn't done any thing with KiCad before. We all here are quit
> deep in the software, project and so on and know how everything is
> working, but think back to the days once you started with KiCad.
>
> > I think that is better suited in a chapter of the documentation,
> > possible as a big section in the Getting Started in KiCad doc. Having
> > it in the documentation will also make it easier to translate.
> For sure this is some useful thing, but do you really think *most* of
> the users do really read some bigger documentation first before they
> install some software? :-)
> You only have about 20-30 seconds off attention if people land on the
> Download page (or any other web page). So better you remember this
> always and try to transfer the needed knowledge within that time span.
> But its' easy to point to the relevant part of documentation there you
> can explain things more in deep.
>
> > Also, don't forget that as it is now works for all other people, than
> > a small handful of people. We can't help everyone always.
>
> The smaller part of people or users that aren't satisfied can make some
> bigger damage on a project than the broader "normal" audience. So try to
> keep this one group of people, that you will never serve completely,
> always small as possible.
>
> --
> Regards
> Carsten Schoenert
>
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