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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

Unless you really enjoy torturing yourself, please focus on py3k and apple
silicon in prep for v6. :)

We are trying to support as many systems as possible on a best effort
basis. We never promised anyone to provide new builds for abandoned OS'.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 02:29, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I got further today getting the 10.12 build to go, but it choked
> during the boost/icu4c installation.
>
> I am not of a strong opinion here--my default opinion is to keep
> supporting all the versions we supported at the start of 5.1, but we
> also have much fewer resources than Apple, who does not support these
> systems anymore.  I am willing to keep at it if folks want, or go back
> to Python 3 / Apple Silicon stuff in prep for 6.
>
> Adam Wolf
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Yea I'm with Nick on this one. As it standards, 10.12 is past EOL now.
> 10.13 EOL is in 2 months. Supporting outdated (and as an extension
> insecure) OSes just encourages users to make the bad decision to keep using
> them.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:26 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If people needs to get a build support for an OS that is not supported
> by the maker, then they can still build it themselves with some effort or
> pay someone to do it. :) There is no reason to handcuff ourselves when it
> is an impediment to doing what we like and do on a volunteer basis. Not
> supporting non-supported OS' when we have better things to do, like getting
> python3 to work, is just a reasonable decision considering the time we have
> at our disposal. We are only dropping "legacy" systems when it becomes a
> pain to maintain. As it is now, we are not just supporting the latest macos
> version.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 16:52, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think it's actually an issue with installing openssl.
> >>>
> >>> I've had an OCE bottle I made that I stored in the repo for years,
> >>> since there were issues with the upstream 10.12 bottle for a while.
> >>>
> >>> Wayne, I suspect is it a relatively low amount of users.  10.12 hasn't
> >>> been getting security updates from Apple since October 2019.  10.13
> >>> just got a security update 3 days ago, and that was likely the last
> >>> security update it will ever get.  10.14 is ~2 years old, 10.15 is
> >>> about a year old, and 10.16 is in beta at the moment.
> >>>
> >>> I'll put a few more minutes into it this morning and see what I can do.
> >>>
> >>> Adam Wolf
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Ian McInerney <
> Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Out of curiosity, which issues are preventing the 10.12-10.13
> builds? Is it the disappearance of OCE from homebrew?
> >>> >
> >>> > -Ian
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adam Wolf <
> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> macOS is uploaded:
> >>> >>
> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.7-0-10_14.dmg
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I was unable to make a 10.12-10.13 build.  These were a little old
> at
> >>> >> the start of the 5.1 series, and "are older than they've ever been
> and
> >>> >> now they're even older." :) It is not necessarily impossible to
> create
> >>> >> these builds, but it's not straightforward at all anymore.  I do not
> >>> >> like having a different set of support at the end of the series than
> >>> >> at the beginning, so if Wayne or someone says "Please go try some
> >>> >> more!" I will, but at the same point, not spending more time than I
> >>> >> already have on the 10.12 builds gives me more time for KiCad 6.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We may need to adjust the wording on the download page because of
> this.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Adam
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 3:47 PM Johannes Maibaum <
> jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Hi,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > flatpak on flathub will be ready a few hours after I press the
> button to
> >>> >> > build them for the stable flathub branch, which will happen on
> the day I
> >>> >> > see the announcement posted. Everything's set to go here.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Best,
> >>> >> > Johannes
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Am Montag, den 28.09.2020, 08:53 -0500 schrieb Adam Wolf:
> >>> >> > > Thanks!
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:47 AM Wayne Stambaugh <
> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >>> >> > > > Adam,
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > No problem, I can hold off posting the announcement to the
> 30th
> >>> >> > > > which
> >>> >> > > > was the original plan.
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Cheers,
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Wayne
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > On 9/28/2020 8:55 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >>> >> > > > > MacOS is going to be at least a day or two, but I should
> have it
> >>> >> > > > > ready
> >>> >> > > > > by the 30th.
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > If it's alright with folks, could we hold off on the
> announcement
> >>> >> > > > > until tomorrow at least?
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > Adam
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:05 AM Wayne Stambaugh <
> >>> >> > > > > stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >> > > > > > Has the website download page been updated? If that's
> done, I
> >>> >> > > > > > will
> >>> >> > > > > > remove the draft tag from the release announcement today.
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > On 9/26/2020 1:42 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >>> >> > > > > > > Everything has been tagged, the windows build is ready.
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > I think the macos build may be a bit delayed, but I
> think we
> >>> >> > > > > > > can undraft
> >>> >> > > > > > > the release announcement now anyways.
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 03:33, Christian Schlüter <
> >>> >> > > > > > > chschlue@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> > > > > > > <mailto:chschlue@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >     Libraries are
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-footprints/releases/tag/5.1.7
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-symbols/releases/tag/5.1.7
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-packages3D/releases/tag/5.1.7
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/releases/tag/5.1.7
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >     Cheers,
> >>> >> > > > > > >     CS
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> > Mark
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