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[Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that this is one area where we can improve the user experience.

By first-class, I mean only that it is an integral part of KiCad that we
develop and support.  We are no longer in the testing phase where it would
make sense to have a conditional compilation.

-Seth

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 4:51 PM Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You say it's first class but the spice gui needs alot of loving. The tool
> framework is also ducktaped poorly into it.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:14 PM Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Do we still need spice as a build option?  It would be nice to bring down
>> the number of permutations out there and the SPICE simulator is really a
>> first-class KiCad citizen nowadays.
>>
>> -S
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 4:04 PM Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Saving in the project file is fine, I just mean if you split out
>>> NGSPICE_SIMULATOR_SETTINGS to a different file (not sim/ngspice.h) with no
>>> dependencies on ngspice itself, the settings class can be built without
>>> ngspice.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:57 PM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought about that but in what context does a simulation make sense
>>>> out side of a schematic or a netlist generated from a schematic?  I
>>>> saved the ngspice simulator settings in the project file because that is
>>>> the proper scope of the setting.  I really don't see a more logical
>>>> place to save the setting.   I suppose I could split out the simulator
>>>> settings code but it would be awkward at best.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/18/21 6:42 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>>>> > Wayne, I haven't checked this code carefully but I'd recommend
>>>> building
>>>> > the settings always, and moving the #ifdef to a different level (i.e.
>>>> > make the settings not depend on ngspice)
>>>> >
>>>> > That way if the same settings files are shared between a build with
>>>> > ngspice and a build without, they won't get thrown away.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:37 PM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     My bad.  I forgot the simulator was a build option so I will have
>>>> to
>>>> >     #ifdef the offending settings code.
>>>> >
>>>> >     - Wayne
>>>> >
>>>> >     On 3/18/21 6:02 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
>>>> >     > I have disabled ngspice in cmake settings but in a recent
>>>> commit by
>>>> >     > Wayne #include <sim/ngspice.h>, which in turn includes
>>>> >     > ngspice/sharedspice.h, was added to schematic.cpp which makes
>>>> >     > compilation fail apparently because I don't have ngspice at all.
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > Eeli Kaikkonen
>>>> >     >
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