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Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]



Caroline Ford wrote:
On 23/02/2008, Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Efrain wrote:
 Would you have had troubles
 >> collaborating with me just because I was pochu?

 > Yes.


Personally, I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather than on the
 name they choose to use.  By all means, if it makes you happier,
 continue to use two words to judge people.


 >> I don't think you should,

 > but it´s my choice.


And it's our choice to judge you, based on how you judge people.


 > I am not promoting a policy, I am just saying. I do not trust people that
 > simply don´t care enough to share names.


And I don't care about people who refuse to believe that people have
 real reasons for not using their real names, and who rate their right to
 feel comfortable about the way people name themselves, above the other
 people's rights to not be harrassed, or to otherwise keep their privacy.

 If you want to force me, by policy, to be harrassed, too bad.  I'm not
 interested.  The door is that way.  *points*

 The more harassment I get from ubuntu, and launchpad, the more personal
 information I remove from it.  I don't  like being harassed, and I don't
 like people deciding it's OK for me, and others to be harassed, so they
 can feel more safe and confident.  If i end up then going and violating
 policies for teams that i'm a member of, then I'll just have to leave
 those teams.  It's not worth being harassed, just to be on a team.

 Yes, this is something I feel very strongly about, hence the harsh mail.

 Hobbsee
 (who, up until mid-last year, was going by nickname only, even while
 being a MOTU, and being a part of the beta testers team)

There is nothing I can add to this. Using real names means that I have
to out myself as female. This means I get shit I wouldn't otherwise
get.

While women tend to "get shit" in this fashion much more than men. It does work both ways.


I would also leave if life became uncomfortable. No-one is going to
martyr themselves.. There are plenty of other projects to contribute
to.

I've been hesitant to contribute more to the FLOSS community *because* of the name situation.

I was badly burned years ago when I foolishly splattered my full real name all over teh Internets.

After being harassed years ago online for months (stalked if you will) by both a man *and* a woman (unrelated incidents) I wised up and abandoned use of my real name online (save for spending money, of course).

My only regret now is that I chose a nickname rather than an "ordinary" pseudonym as it would make any (potentially necessary) transition to another pseudonym difficult.

But even so, if I'd decided to call myself "Scott Stephen Stillwater" instead of "angrykeyboarder" it wouldn't be "real" either (but of course it would be far less obvious that in this case).

So then, what happens if you end up at a developer summit or user meeting and have to use your real name (for hotels perhaps)?

And then there's the GPG issue. There apparently is no acceptable way to get your key signed other than to lay eyes upon the person who will be signing it and presenting your government-issued ID to said person.

So much for pseudonyms...

Back to harassment...

Besides that, there are other good reasons not to use your real name online as well.

Let's say I apply for a job next week. Do I want potential/future employers reading though a discussion I was in that developed into a flamewar?

Or do I want them seeing my "party pictures" on flickr?

I think not.

But I digress...

Under ordinary online circumstances using a pseudonym is not something you really have to think much about. I just do it. But when it comes to something like the FLOSS community (be it Ubuntu, Fedora, FreeBSD, Mandriva or Mozilla) then where does that leave you?

Aah the quandary of it all...


--
            Scott
https://launchpad.net/~angrykeyboarder   http://angrykeyboarder.com
I've never used an OS I didn't (dis)like.
I'm angrykeyboarder™ and I approved this message.





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