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Re: Brainstorming Team

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Julien Lavergne
<julien.lavergne@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

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> 2013/11/23 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Julien, Rafael, Sergio and everyone,
>>
>> @Julien
>> I know that you have removed yourself from the brainstorming team and
>> while I fail to understand why, talking about it does not really matter
>> anymore. We need to move forward.
>>
>
> I quit the team to remove all the mail I got from it. Last time I tried to
> filter the mails from launchpad blueprints, that was a mess ... And just
> for the record, I created it just because phillw asked me to do the
> paperwork and the launchpad configuration, I never was a huge fan of this
> idea (see below).
>
>
>> Having that said, kindly have a look at:
>>
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/brainstorming-team-lead
>>
>> It has all the details and the emails I sent.
>>
>> I'm CC'ing the Brainstorming Team.
>>
>> The current drivers of Lubuntu need to decide the future of Lubuntu
>> Brainstorming Team. With the current situation of Lubuntu, I can no longer
>> carry on and I have many reasons I prefer not to discuss right now because
>> this could make things even worse.
>>
>
> I'll be the bad guy here, but I don't think this project help us (read,
> the devs). Most of the ideas are ideas we already have. We just don't have
> the time to implement them properly. And send us reminders, mails,
> blueprints and stuff, doesn't help. Previouly, we did this stuff on a
> single blueprint by team, with discussion inside. That's worked, more or
> less. This time I didn't do it for the devs team because 14.04 is a
> fix-bug-release only. Experimentations, new stuff should have be done on
> 13.10, not 14.04.
>
> Currently, we need people to implement them, but we don't have currently
> the infrastructure to train people to help us. So, also, any request for
> help for the devs team is useless unless the person is able to deal with
> problems himself (I think I already said that during an IRC meeting, but I
> also may have imagine it).
>
>
>> I know since 15-May-2012 you have stepped down as the leader of Lubuntu
>> but I am not sending you this because you are the leader, I am sending you
>> this because you, Rafael and Sergio are the current Team Leaders (Dev,
>> Artwork and Wiki) :) ... and ... in case you don't know, Lubuntu
>> Communications has no Team Leader/Driver but Ibere and David are taking
>> good care of the Social Media. Support Team is no longer exist:
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-sub-teams
>>
>
> Please read again my answer about the teams. There are not supposed to be
> organizations + chief. They are supposed to be a group of people willing to
> help on a area. A team doesn't need a leader, and worse, doesn't need a
> self-appointed leader. A leader emerges naturally from a group, not the
> opposite.
>
>
>>
>> I have sent so many reminders and emails but no one seems interested to
>> step in. Just in case I need to re-remind you that, I do have many other
>> roles that I need to focus on.
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement
>>
>> So, please Julien, Rafael and Sergio, I appreciate if we could sit and
>> talk about the future of this area - Lubuntu Brainstorming Team.
>>
>
Sure! what do you prefer by email or irc meeting?


>
>> I refuse to remain the owner of the launchpad team and sit there doing
>> nothing. As long as I am the driver, I must do something and as I made it
>> extra clear, I have disengaged myself from Lubuntu Activities:
>>
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-November/006233.html
>>
>> So, you see, I am not in a good position here. It is either I remain the
>> driver of that area and carry on with my usual activities or step down. I
>> have decided to step down.
>>
>
> Well, if this really bother you, just set me as the driver as a temporary
> solution, until people who want to work on this area organize themselves.
> I'll find a way to filter the mail if it's needed.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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