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From: gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunto - bug report - USB 3g mobile
broadband 	detection
To: pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx


I understand your point, but unfortunately it's not the case.

Ubuntu 9.04 did work wonderfully with the NetworkManager.

Then, there was a regression, at 9.10. It was not exactly a
regression, but a well documented bug, reported very early during
development time, that was not fixed, by pure neglect, up to the
release time, and that has become a huge fiasco. Later on, Ubunto
fixed it in a patched kernel.

In case you are interested to follow the details, please look at this
hungry letter, here:

http://www.linux.org.za/Lists-Archives/glug-chat-0911/msg00017.html

"...To get online, I used to click the NetworkManager icon and select
"Vodacom", which would connect through my Huawei E220 3G card. I click
the NetworkManager icon in 9.10 and there's nothing. I unplug and
replug the 3G card, wait, wait, wait, still nothing. It shows up on
lsusb, and works on my other computer running 9.04. I try to manually
set up a 3G connection in NetworkManager, in the absense of any
hardware, but that doesn't cause the option to connect through 3G to
show up. Eventually Googling, I discover that it's a kernel bug that
was patched on 13th October
(http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=125540979118724&w=2) which is 2 days
before Ubuntu went into kernel freeze, but they still shipped with a
buggy kernel despite numerous complaints on the relevant launchpad bug
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146). It
seems to be a real testament to Ubuntu's (lack of) quality that even
now, *6 days* after the release, there is still no update that fixes
this major bug." ...


And here, the above mentioned bug 446146, at launchpad

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146



It is worth noting that any distro that is developed to be light, to
be used in low resource machines, namely netboxes, favouring it's
portability, has all to gain if it provides support for the today very
popular USB mobile 3g broadband, as with it, one may be able to access
the net with it's laptop or netbox, everywhere in the outdoors.

And no, wicd do not support 3g modems, nor does intend to support then
in the near future.

In conclusion, I would strongly suggest you to make your better effort
to support those devices, out of the box, considering the obvious
advantages it will offer to your targeted users.


Zerobug
















> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:51 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunto - bug report - USB 3g mobile broadband detection
> From: pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx
> To: amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Most of the time this is a global ubuntu issue, not a lubuntu bug.
> I believe that this has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu.
>
> You can try ubuntu live cd/usb to see if it's a ubuntu problem or a
> lubuntu specific issue.
> If ubuntu fails to provide working network manager, I'd recommend
> fedora 13 lxde spin or suse, which will be released soon.
> As network manager is mainly developed by redhat and novell, I believe
> that fedora and suse should provide the best network manager
> experience. Otherwise you can install wicd instead to see if it works
> for you, but don't expect too much.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I’v just had the second disappointment with Lubunto.
> >
> > I tried the Beta 1 and noticed the network manager was not working for the
> > mobile 3g broadband dongles.
> >
> > Well, I thought by beta2 it would be fixed.
> >
> > One hour ago, I found it’s announcement at Distrowatch.
> >
> > I hurry up to download and install it.
> >
> > Then I could not believe when I noticed the said problem was not fixed yet.
> >
> > Otherwise, you made a nice distro and a good work. but please, see what's
> > going on with this USB 3g mobile broadband detection by the networkmanager.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Zerobug
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