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[PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx>]

Apparently, the only solution to this problem is to find out who cause the bug.
If the bug also happens in ubuntu, it should be fixed in ubuntu and
this has no relationship with lubutu or lxde.
If the bug happens in Lubuntu only, it's a lubuntu bug.
If the bug also happens in distros other than Ubuntu, then apparently
this is a network manager bug and it should be fixed in upstream, not
the distros. Then you should bug report to network manager developers
instead.

Bug report to the right person is the key to get it fixed.
Personally since I have no 3g card, I'm not able to help the testing,
but testing this in ubuntu and fedora can immediately show the source
of the problem. I encourage you to do so. Network manager is not
developed by us and we have no 3g devices for testing. So we're not
going to fix this. Personally I believe that this is not a Lubuntu
specific bug. I bet this also happen in Ubuntu. You can try it. If it
also happens in ubuntu, bug report to ubuntu developers is the best
way to get it fixed.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I understand your point, but unfortunately it's not the case.
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> Ubuntu 9.04 did work wonderfully with the NetworkManager.
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> Then, there was a regression, at 9.10. It was not exactly a regression, but
> a well documented bug, reported very early during development time, that was
> not fixed, by pure neglect, up to the release time, and that has become a
> huge fiasco. Later on, Ubunto fixed it in a patched kernel.
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> In case you are interested to follow the details, please look at this hungry
> letter, here:
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> http://www.linux.org.za/Lists-Archives/glug-chat-0911/msg00017.html
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> "...To get online, I used to click the NetworkManager icon and select
> "Vodacom", which would connect through my Huawei E220 3G card. I click
> the NetworkManager icon in 9.10 and there's nothing. I unplug and
> replug the 3G card, wait, wait, wait, still nothing. It shows up on
> lsusb, and works on my other computer running 9.04. I try to manually
> set up a 3G connection in NetworkManager, in the absense of any
> hardware, but that doesn't cause the option to connect through 3G to
> show up. Eventually Googling, I discover that it's a kernel bug that
> was patched on 13th October
> (http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=125540979118724&w=2) which is 2 days
> before Ubuntu went into kernel freeze, but they still shipped with a
> buggy kernel despite numerous complaints on the relevant launchpad bug
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146). It
> seems to be a real testament to Ubuntu's (lack of) quality that even
> now, *6 days* after the release, there is still no update that fixes
> this major bug." ...
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> And here, the above mentioned bug 446146, at launchpad
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146
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> It is worth noting that any distro that is developed to be light, to be used
> in low resource machines, namely netboxes, favouring it's portability, has
> all to gain if it provides support for the today very popular USB mobile 3g
> broadband, as with it, one may be able to access the net with it's laptop or
> netbox, everywhere in the outdoors.
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> And no, wicd do not support 3g modems, nor does intend to support then in
> the near future.
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> In conclusion, I would strongly suggest you to make your better effort to
> support those devices, out of the box, considering the obvious advantages it
> will offer to your targeted users.
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:51 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunto - bug report - USB 3g mobile
>> broadband detection
>> From: pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Most of the time this is a global ubuntu issue, not a lubuntu bug.
>> I believe that this has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu.
>>
>> You can try ubuntu live cd/usb to see if it's a ubuntu problem or a
>> lubuntu specific issue.
>> If ubuntu fails to provide working network manager, I'd recommend
>> fedora 13 lxde spin or suse, which will be released soon.
>> As network manager is mainly developed by redhat and novell, I believe
>> that fedora and suse should provide the best network manager
>> experience. Otherwise you can install wicd instead to see if it works
>> for you, but don't expect too much.
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>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I’v just had the second disappointment with Lubunto.
>> >
>> > I tried the Beta 1 and noticed the network manager was not working for
>> > the
>> > mobile 3g broadband dongles.
>> >
>> > Well, I thought by beta2 it would be fixed.
>> >
>> > One hour ago, I found it’s announcement at Distrowatch.
>> >
>> > I hurry up to download and install it.
>> >
>> > Then I could not believe when I noticed the said problem was not fixed
>> > yet.
>> >
>> > Otherwise, you made a nice distro and a good work. but please, see
>> > what's
>> > going on with this USB 3g mobile broadband detection by the
>> > networkmanager.
>> >
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>> >
>> > Zerobug
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