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[PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx>]

The ubuntu version you tested is not 10.04, right? Try the latest 10.04 instead.
We didn't implement anything for network manager and there is no need
to do this.
We use the totally the same applet from gnome, and it should work if
it work in gnome.
If it doesn't, it's highly probable this is a ubuntu bug.
This has nothing to do with Lubuntu at all and we shouldn't need to
write any single line of code for it. If it works in Ubuntu and its
gnome, it should work in Lubuntu, too since we use "the same" program
with "the same" configuration.
So I believe this is a bug of upstream Ubuntu 10.04. Please test it instead.
If 3g doesn't work in Ubuntu 10.04 beta, too, it's a regression bug of
Ubuntu and you should bug report to Ubuntu developers, not in Lubuntu
mailing list since we're not mainting that applet. So basically you
complained to the wrong person.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:38 AM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well.... I missed to mention a detail, that may be, is in the origin of the
> problem.
>
> As far as I'v seen from the past, the Networkmanager is an applet that has
> been used only by Gnome distros.
>
> Every Gnome I have tried, works perfectly with mobile 3g. Ubuntu included,
> Paldo, Fedora, Sabayon........
>
> I think there is also one, just one, successful implementation of it at an
> XFCE distro, but I can't remember now witch one was it. Anyway KFCE is based
> on Gnome.
>
> Regarding the KDE, it was only on their very lately version that they were
> able to have this application running with support to 3g. They named it
> knetworkmanager.
>
> So, in conclusion, we are both right and wrong. This is more an issue to be
> addressed to the LXDE developers, to work on code to make things compatible,
> and is nothing about bugs.
>
> I understand that in every distro the resources are allways limited, and
> plenty of priorities have to be made, be it on the short, medium or long
> term. So, I'll not expect to see this implemented in the Lubuntu next
> release. That's nothing serious, anyway. Maybe later on in the forums, some
> talented user may even come with some sort of work around.
>
> To finish, I'd like to express my congratulations for the good work you're
> people are doing with LXDE/Lubuntu. I always though that LXDE had the
> potential to be picked up, developed and integrated in a mainstream distro,
> and I'm no doubt that your Lubuntu is gonna be a tremendous success, and
> will finally give LXDE the  visibility it deserves.
>
> Zerobug / Gomes
>
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:32:04 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunto - bug report - USB 3g mobile
>> broadband detection
>> From: pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Apparently, the only solution to this problem is to find out who cause the
>> bug.
>> If the bug also happens in ubuntu, it should be fixed in ubuntu and
>> this has no relationship with lubutu or lxde.
>> If the bug happens in Lubuntu only, it's a lubuntu bug.
>> If the bug also happens in distros other than Ubuntu, then apparently
>> this is a network manager bug and it should be fixed in upstream, not
>> the distros. Then you should bug report to network manager developers
>> instead.
>>
>> Bug report to the right person is the key to get it fixed.
>> Personally since I have no 3g card, I'm not able to help the testing,
>> but testing this in ubuntu and fedora can immediately show the source
>> of the problem. I encourage you to do so. Network manager is not
>> developed by us and we have no 3g devices for testing. So we're not
>> going to fix this. Personally I believe that this is not a Lubuntu
>> specific bug. I bet this also happen in Ubuntu. You can try it. If it
>> also happens in ubuntu, bug report to ubuntu developers is the best
>> way to get it fixed.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I understand your point, but unfortunately it's not the case.
>> >
>> > Ubuntu 9.04 did work wonderfully with the NetworkManager.
>> >
>> > Then, there was a regression, at 9.10. It was not exactly a regression,
>> > but
>> > a well documented bug, reported very early during development time, that
>> > was
>> > not fixed, by pure neglect, up to the release time, and that has become
>> > a
>> > huge fiasco. Later on, Ubunto fixed it in a patched kernel.
>> >
>> > In case you are interested to follow the details, please look at this
>> > hungry
>> > letter, here:
>> >
>> > http://www.linux.org.za/Lists-Archives/glug-chat-0911/msg00017.html
>> >
>> > "...To get online, I used to click the NetworkManager icon and select
>> > "Vodacom", which would connect through my Huawei E220 3G card. I click
>> > the NetworkManager icon in 9.10 and there's nothing. I unplug and
>> > replug the 3G card, wait, wait, wait, still nothing. It shows up on
>> > lsusb, and works on my other computer running 9.04. I try to manually
>> > set up a 3G connection in NetworkManager, in the absense of any
>> > hardware, but that doesn't cause the option to connect through 3G to
>> > show up. Eventually Googling, I discover that it's a kernel bug that
>> > was patched on 13th October
>> > (http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=125540979118724&w=2) which is 2 days
>> > before Ubuntu went into kernel freeze, but they still shipped with a
>> > buggy kernel despite numerous complaints on the relevant launchpad bug
>> > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146). It
>> > seems to be a real testament to Ubuntu's (lack of) quality that even
>> > now, *6 days* after the release, there is still no update that fixes
>> > this major bug." ...
>> >
>> >
>> > And here, the above mentioned bug 446146, at launchpad
>> >
>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It is worth noting that any distro that is developed to be light, to be
>> > used
>> > in low resource machines, namely netboxes, favouring it's portability,
>> > has
>> > all to gain if it provides support for the today very popular USB mobile
>> > 3g
>> > broadband, as with it, one may be able to access the net with it's
>> > laptop or
>> > netbox, everywhere in the outdoors.
>> >
>> > And no, wicd do not support 3g modems, nor does intend to support then
>> > in
>> > the near future.
>> >
>> > In conclusion, I would strongly suggest you to make your better effort
>> > to
>> > support those devices, out of the box, considering the obvious
>> > advantages it
>> > will offer to your targeted users.
>> >
>> >
>> > Zerobug
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:51 +0800
>> >> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunto - bug report - USB 3g mobile
>> >> broadband detection
>> >> From: pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> To: amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> CC: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Most of the time this is a global ubuntu issue, not a lubuntu bug.
>> >> I believe that this has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu.
>> >>
>> >> You can try ubuntu live cd/usb to see if it's a ubuntu problem or a
>> >> lubuntu specific issue.
>> >> If ubuntu fails to provide working network manager, I'd recommend
>> >> fedora 13 lxde spin or suse, which will be released soon.
>> >> As network manager is mainly developed by redhat and novell, I believe
>> >> that fedora and suse should provide the best network manager
>> >> experience. Otherwise you can install wicd instead to see if it works
>> >> for you, but don't expect too much.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, gomes vaz <amgev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > I’v just had the second disappointment with Lubunto.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried the Beta 1 and noticed the network manager was not working
>> >> > for
>> >> > the
>> >> > mobile 3g broadband dongles.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I thought by beta2 it would be fixed.
>> >> >
>> >> > One hour ago, I found it’s announcement at Distrowatch.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hurry up to download and install it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then I could not believe when I noticed the said problem was not
>> >> > fixed
>> >> > yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > Otherwise, you made a nice distro and a good work. but please, see
>> >> > what's
>> >> > going on with this USB 3g mobile broadband detection by the
>> >> > networkmanager.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Zerobug
>> >> >
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