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Is it possible to keep an unofficial kernel for old abandoned cpus in
lubuntu ppa, if there are people willing to maintain it?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> No, it means that the CPus need to have support for PAE, it's independent
> of the memory.
> Also, the range of hardware affected is not so clear, see the thread on
> ubuntu-devel. I already answered that depending of the list of hardware
> affected, it could be a big support drop for Lubuntu.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:44:20 +0000
> Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > If I understand right, this will only affect those on said machines IF
> they have ~4GB RAM. Which is unlikely, considering they have Pentium IIs.
> >
> > But I agree, we should keep the old kernels for a bit longer. But then
> we throw a dilemma, where we don't get new kernels. Unless you want a
> kernel developer for Lubuntu.
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:39:02 +0100
> > 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) <rafaellaguna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
> > > they're happy an OS can handle those "trashy" computers and make them
> > > useable.
> > >
> > > Will this affect those users?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  <http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/>  <http://www.lubuntu.net/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > > I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an
> impact on
> > > > Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Julien Lavergne
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
> > > > From: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > ubuntu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in
> Precise
> > > > Pangolin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the
> non-PAE
> > > > i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE
> kernel.
> > > > Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned. To
> > > > the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium
> II,
> > > > 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are
> no
> > > > laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
> > > > minimum requirements.
> > > >
> > > > Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to
> hear
> > > > from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
> > > > kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
> > > > utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of
> users
> > > > of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.
> > > >
> > > > If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
> > > > willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview
> > > >
> > > > We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.
> > > >
> > > > rtg
> > > >
> > > > P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
> > > > (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
> > > > allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Gardner tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
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