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[Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I think this harks back to how long we will support 10.04 for, we barely
have enough people to backport to that - asking for a 2nd set of
backporting may well be beyond the small number of devs we have. For me,
with dropping of chipsets after 10.04, maybe we could concentrate on
keeping 10.04 alive? If it were actually an LTS they could expect support
until 2015, the kernel should be updated until then, but someone like
Jmarsden would have to agree to issue periodic updates. JMarsden did issue
a 10.04.1 release but there was little reply in terms of getting it tested.
As to hosting any iso's, I remain committed to hosting the 'older' iso's
for Lubuntu that were pre-adoption by Canonical stage on my server area.

Regards,

Phill.

On 18 November 2011 17:25, PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Is it possible to keep an unofficial kernel for old abandoned cpus in
> lubuntu ppa, if there are people willing to maintain it?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> No, it means that the CPus need to have support for PAE, it's independent
>> of the memory.
>> Also, the range of hardware affected is not so clear, see the thread on
>> ubuntu-devel. I already answered that depending of the list of hardware
>> affected, it could be a big support drop for Lubuntu.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:44:20 +0000
>> Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > If I understand right, this will only affect those on said machines IF
>> they have ~4GB RAM. Which is unlikely, considering they have Pentium IIs.
>> >
>> > But I agree, we should keep the old kernels for a bit longer. But then
>> we throw a dilemma, where we don't get new kernels. Unless you want a
>> kernel developer for Lubuntu.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:39:02 +0100
>> > 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) <rafaellaguna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
>> > > they're happy an OS can handle those "trashy" computers and make them
>> > > useable.
>> > >
>> > > Will this affect those users?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  <http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/>  <http://www.lubuntu.net/>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >
>> > > > I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an
>> impact on
>> > > > Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Julien Lavergne
>> > > >
>> > > > Begin forwarded message:
>> > > >
>> > > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
>> > > > From: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> > > > ubuntu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in
>> Precise
>> > > > Pangolin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the
>> non-PAE
>> > > > i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE
>> kernel.
>> > > > Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned.
>> To
>> > > > the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium
>> II,
>> > > > 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are
>> no
>> > > > laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
>> > > > minimum requirements.
>> > > >
>> > > > Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to
>> hear
>> > > > from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
>> > > > kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
>> > > > utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of
>> users
>> > > > of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.
>> > > >
>> > > > If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
>> > > > willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.
>> > > >
>> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview
>> > > >
>> > > > We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.
>> > > >
>> > > > rtg
>> > > >
>> > > > P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
>> > > > (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
>> > > > allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
>> > > > --
>> > > > Tim Gardner tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
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