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[Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx>]

Update on the min.iso precise 12.04 non-pae testings and tweaking..
It is still best to use normal install (tasksel) select lubuntu-core
You will get a completely bootable version on the partition you installed
it to.
I still like to get synaptic first and then install lubuntu-desktop (all
clean just like it would be from LiveCD)

Okay now I have carried it  and  carried it a little farther..  Yeah just a
little .. whew

I used remastersys and created an iso that could be distributed.  Problem
is I added to much junk to it before I decide to try the remastersys.
Image is about 803 MB so it is a tad to big.. It did boot up and has an
option to install .. That is my next step.. By the way I added the b43
firmware to the install for my laptop.  It made it through the remastersys
too.  will now remaster a truly stripped down iso and see how small it is.

It has been a fun productive morning here.  Trying to install now will let
you know..

nm_geo Greg



On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Lance I just did another mini.iso install today with the 20120203 date.
>
> What I have found is that using only the lubuntu-core initially does a
> better job.
>
> I then booted to the installed Lubuntu-core..  used Xterm and sudo
> installed synaptic right away.  *Note: " just doing the lubuntu-desktop
> right here would be reasonable and synaptic would fall in place with it."*
>
> Then I added the lubuntu-desktop.
> After that I added the apts that I think I have got to have..... Firefox(I
> love Sync), keepassx and nautilus-dropbox
>
> everything is splendid now...
>
> I have to admit I like the look of the LXDE desktop.. Wish I had tried it
> during the rush to beta1 testing.
>
> I should nearly be an expert on the mini.iso install by the time I finish
> testing.. NOT
>
> The kernel is the key to those b43 issues without ethernet.  I am doing
> some thinkin' on that one.
>
> NEXT shot will be straight CLI install.. But this install worked pretty
> well I think.
>
> nm_geo Greg
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Quite simply tasksel has been very unreliable, particularly so since I
>> requested this change:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/931237
>>
>> Personally if I had to choose ATM I'd say stick with CLI.
>>
>> But the worst problem is that most of those effected seem to have Pentium
>> M Laptops with no access to a wired connection. Not sure yet how to deal
>> with that.
>>
>> I have found that UNetbootin works fine to create a mini.iso flash drive.
>> There has to be a way to slip the most common wireless drivers into it.
>>
>> But this was a total screw-up on the part of Canonical, and I've told
>> SABDFL the same:
>>
>> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08539.html
>>
>> No reply yet, but unless Ubuntu itself changes course we'll just have to
>> tell a lot of Pentium users w/o wired access goodbye :^(
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 3/4/12, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>> To: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: lubuntu-wiki-docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>> "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>, "Steven" <stenten@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 12:38 PM
>>
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> That tasksel might be a bit beginner friendly, however did anyone test
>> already if Lubuntu Desktop is even added to that? We've only become
>> official this release, that might mean someone could have overlooked it.
>> Note that it will take a lot more from our side in terms of
>> documentation. Giving a more step by step guidance.
>>
>> Something to think about.
>>
>> @Steven: let us know how things will progress.
>>
>> With metta, Chris
>> On Mar 3, 2012 12:09 PM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>>
>> Chris is team leader for the wiki / docs team [1], as I'm also a member
>> of that team we do still chat to each other :)
>>
>> I've cc'd them this email.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs
>>
>> On 2 March 2012 20:24, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on things, how much documentation do we need?
>>
>> I think a very brief how-to regarding upgrades from Oneiric to Precise.
>> But we all know that upgrades can be problematic depending on
>> customization, hardware, etc.
>>
>> When it comes down to the the mini.iso we used to provide very limited
>> details regarding the minimal install:
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
>>
>> None of that is wrong but I think we should be able to use "Install" and
>> 'tasksel'. Or should we go CLI? Or do we need to provide details for both
>> methods?
>>
>> If we go with 'tasksel' I like this guide:
>>
>> http://xbmcmediacenter.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-mini-iso/
>>
>> But I have a few concerns:
>>
>> (1) Regarding "hostname" I think we need to better explain that it's the
>> same as Computer Name using the live CD, ie:
>>
>> This is the name used to identify the computer on your network, if you're
>> used to using the live installer it's simply called "computer name" there
>> and it's created for you when you enter your full name and user name, eg;
>>
>> If your full name is "John Smith", and you keep the user name "john" your
>> computer name will typically be something like "john-desktop".
>>
>> (2) HTTP proxy. I've never had to set one up, most users won't. How do we
>> explain that?
>>
>> (3) Partitioning! How much should we say? At least "use largest
>> continuous space" still exists in the Debian installer ;^)
>>
>> (4) Regarding encryption I don't know what to say, I've never done so.
>>
>> (5) UTC clock settings still exists in the alternate install images but
>> not in the netboot installs I've tried. Do we need to mention anything here?
>>
>> I think PhillW is our main documentation guy so I think it's ultimately
>> up to him to decide what the documentation says, sorry Phill :^)
>>
>> But I also wanted to be able to create a bootable USB flash drive with
>> the mini.iso image and while it was possible using grub and "dd" I found it
>> unreliable, and we all know "dd" can be hazardous to existing data.
>>
>> So I kept exploring and it's fairly easy to create a bootable mini.iso
>> with UNetbootin. Downright easy to create a Oneiric image, a tiny bit more
>> complicated to create Precise image due to the need to understand file
>> paths, but much safer than using "dd" from CLI.
>>
>> So I contacted the UNetbootin dev and asked if they'd provide both
>> standard and non-pae images in their available downloads. We'll have to be
>> patient for a reply.
>>
>> What does everyone think so far?
>>
>> If you wish you can follow the conversation here at the forums:
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924455
>>
>> Sorry if I'm just being a pain in the neck,
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> PS: All of my hardware runs the PAE kernel just fine so we will need a
>> non-pae tester at some point, but I know how to look and see what kernel
>> packages are installed, what's running, etc.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 3/1/12, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>> To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 1:39 PM
>>
>>
>> As the subject says.
>>
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