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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds fun!

Yeah, CD sized is always good :)

As it looks like it will be a community respin, I'm prepared to host it. It
will need some testing :) Do keep us updated with progress. The final
respin will be after the release of 12.04 as a community edition. We have
had them before we were adopted, I'd have to check what the situation is
now that we are adopted in terms of where we can state its existance.

Regards,

Phill.

On 10 March 2012 22:05, Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Update on the min.iso precise 12.04 non-pae testings and tweaking..
> It is still best to use normal install (tasksel) select lubuntu-core
> You will get a completely bootable version on the partition you installed
> it to.
> I still like to get synaptic first and then install lubuntu-desktop (all
> clean just like it would be from LiveCD)
>
> Okay now I have carried it  and  carried it a little farther..  Yeah just
> a little .. whew
>
> I used remastersys and created an iso that could be distributed.  Problem
> is I added to much junk to it before I decide to try the remastersys.
> Image is about 803 MB so it is a tad to big.. It did boot up and has an
> option to install .. That is my next step.. By the way I added the b43
> firmware to the install for my laptop.  It made it through the remastersys
> too.  will now remaster a truly stripped down iso and see how small it is.
>
> It has been a fun productive morning here.  Trying to install now will let
> you know..
>
> nm_geo Greg
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Lance I just did another mini.iso install today with the 20120203 date.
>>
>> What I have found is that using only the lubuntu-core initially does a
>> better job.
>>
>> I then booted to the installed Lubuntu-core..  used Xterm and sudo
>> installed synaptic right away.  *Note: " just doing the lubuntu-desktop
>> right here would be reasonable and synaptic would fall in place with it."
>> *
>>
>> Then I added the lubuntu-desktop.
>> After that I added the apts that I think I have got to have.....
>> Firefox(I love Sync), keepassx and nautilus-dropbox
>>
>> everything is splendid now...
>>
>> I have to admit I like the look of the LXDE desktop.. Wish I had tried it
>> during the rush to beta1 testing.
>>
>> I should nearly be an expert on the mini.iso install by the time I finish
>> testing.. NOT
>>
>> The kernel is the key to those b43 issues without ethernet.  I am doing
>> some thinkin' on that one.
>>
>> NEXT shot will be straight CLI install.. But this install worked pretty
>> well I think.
>>
>> nm_geo Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Quite simply tasksel has been very unreliable, particularly so since I
>>> requested this change:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/931237
>>>
>>> Personally if I had to choose ATM I'd say stick with CLI.
>>>
>>> But the worst problem is that most of those effected seem to have
>>> Pentium M Laptops with no access to a wired connection. Not sure yet how to
>>> deal with that.
>>>
>>> I have found that UNetbootin works fine to create a mini.iso flash
>>> drive. There has to be a way to slip the most common wireless drivers into
>>> it.
>>>
>>> But this was a total screw-up on the part of Canonical, and I've told
>>> SABDFL the same:
>>>
>>> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08539.html
>>>
>>> No reply yet, but unless Ubuntu itself changes course we'll just have to
>>> tell a lot of Pentium users w/o wired access goodbye :^(
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Sun, 3/4/12, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>>> To: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: lubuntu-wiki-docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>>> lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>, "Steven" <
>>> stenten@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 12:38 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Aloha,
>>>
>>> That tasksel might be a bit beginner friendly, however did anyone test
>>> already if Lubuntu Desktop is even added to that? We've only become
>>> official this release, that might mean someone could have overlooked it.
>>> Note that it will take a lot more from our side in terms of
>>> documentation. Giving a more step by step guidance.
>>>
>>> Something to think about.
>>>
>>> @Steven: let us know how things will progress.
>>>
>>> With metta, Chris
>>> On Mar 3, 2012 12:09 PM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lance,
>>>
>>> Chris is team leader for the wiki / docs team [1], as I'm also a member
>>> of that team we do still chat to each other :)
>>>
>>> I've cc'd them this email.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs
>>>
>>> On 2 March 2012 20:24, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working on things, how much documentation do we need?
>>>
>>> I think a very brief how-to regarding upgrades from Oneiric to Precise.
>>> But we all know that upgrades can be problematic depending on
>>> customization, hardware, etc.
>>>
>>> When it comes down to the the mini.iso we used to provide very limited
>>> details regarding the minimal install:
>>>
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
>>>
>>> None of that is wrong but I think we should be able to use "Install" and
>>> 'tasksel'. Or should we go CLI? Or do we need to provide details for both
>>> methods?
>>>
>>> If we go with 'tasksel' I like this guide:
>>>
>>> http://xbmcmediacenter.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-mini-iso/
>>>
>>> But I have a few concerns:
>>>
>>> (1) Regarding "hostname" I think we need to better explain that it's the
>>> same as Computer Name using the live CD, ie:
>>>
>>> This is the name used to identify the computer on your network, if
>>> you're used to using the live installer it's simply called "computer name"
>>> there and it's created for you when you enter your full name and user name,
>>> eg;
>>>
>>> If your full name is "John Smith", and you keep the user name "john"
>>> your computer name will typically be something like "john-desktop".
>>>
>>> (2) HTTP proxy. I've never had to set one up, most users won't. How do
>>> we explain that?
>>>
>>> (3) Partitioning! How much should we say? At least "use largest
>>> continuous space" still exists in the Debian installer ;^)
>>>
>>> (4) Regarding encryption I don't know what to say, I've never done so.
>>>
>>> (5) UTC clock settings still exists in the alternate install images but
>>> not in the netboot installs I've tried. Do we need to mention anything here?
>>>
>>> I think PhillW is our main documentation guy so I think it's ultimately
>>> up to him to decide what the documentation says, sorry Phill :^)
>>>
>>> But I also wanted to be able to create a bootable USB flash drive with
>>> the mini.iso image and while it was possible using grub and "dd" I found it
>>> unreliable, and we all know "dd" can be hazardous to existing data.
>>>
>>> So I kept exploring and it's fairly easy to create a bootable mini.iso
>>> with UNetbootin. Downright easy to create a Oneiric image, a tiny bit more
>>> complicated to create Precise image due to the need to understand file
>>> paths, but much safer than using "dd" from CLI.
>>>
>>> So I contacted the UNetbootin dev and asked if they'd provide both
>>> standard and non-pae images in their available downloads. We'll have to be
>>> patient for a reply.
>>>
>>> What does everyone think so far?
>>>
>>> If you wish you can follow the conversation here at the forums:
>>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924455
>>>
>>> Sorry if I'm just being a pain in the neck,
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>> PS: All of my hardware runs the PAE kernel just fine so we will need a
>>> non-pae tester at some point, but I know how to look and see what kernel
>>> packages are installed, what's running, etc.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 3/1/12, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>>> To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 1:39 PM
>>>
>>>
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