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Re: Over Size iso's

 

Hi Jackson,

I'll start off a new email thread with [PPC Beta 1] as the title, so people
who are not PPC know that they need not read it :)

Regards,

Phill.

On 14 March 2013 19:53, Jackson Doak <doak.jackson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> i will try and get some testing done. anything specific?
> i can't get the recursive bug  workarounds to work, so that limits what i
> can test.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi wxl,
>>
>> well, we didn't get a beta 1 PPC alternate out and I've just been told
>> that PPC Desktop is oversized.
>>
>> Not the end of the world, as we are only at beta 1, but it does flag up
>> that this issue is not going any where on its own and needs a concerted
>> 'pull' by the PPC testers to see what we can get sorted out before beta 2
>> lands.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 3 February 2013 19:32, ∅ <carsrcoffins23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I can't make that much of a comment based on such little info but
>>> if you mess with our video drivers it will be the death of PPC  ;-)
>>>
>>> I would like no know more about this new kernel format as well as the
>>> new binaries. Honestly I'm more concerned (maybe excited) about the effect
>>> of these than oversized isos.
>>>
>>> My feeling is that right now we have a lot of G3 users. These early
>>> machines are the ones that will be most affected by large images whereas
>>> newer machines can handle DVDs.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, those machines are best taken care of through an
>>> alternate install so as long as those are ok we should be fine.
>>>
>>> At this point I would strongly advocate only having the alternate. I
>>> would love to provide a live CD for people to test with, but between
>>> wireless and video, and the fact we have limited resources to ensure it
>>> works right, expecting desktop to work for most people is an unreasonable
>>> expectation.
>>>
>>> When I first started looking for Linux for my Mac, I looked specifically
>>> for live CDs because I wasn't ready to commit without knowing it would
>>> work. I can't imagine I'm the only one that felt that way. Us PPC users
>>> know that we are pretty unsupported, even by Apple. However, if we can make
>>> alternate really work well, even if it is through documentation, I think it
>>> will put people's minds at ease.
>>>
>>> That's my 2¢.
>>> wxl
>>> On Feb 3, 2013 9:17 AM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think that until a fix is found, removing some things from the PPC
>>>> iso is the least worst choice, as some PPC machines really do not like
>>>> booting from USB.
>>>>
>>>> Walter, I'd appreciate your and the other PPC testers view on this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Phill.
>>>>
>>>> On 3 February 2013 07:51, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 01/25/2013 04:27 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>  The Desktop [1]  shows as over sized. Would you be so kind as to put
>>>>>> it on a diet and have it slimmed down :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't forget you :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, I think it's a bug somewhere between the way the desktop
>>>>> ISO is done, and the new "format" of powerpc kernel (there several new
>>>>> binaries since 13.04), since alternate is not affected. I need to raise and
>>>>> document a bug about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, I can cut-off some applications not essential to
>>>>> reduce the size of the ISO. But it will also remove by default those
>>>>> applications for all installations (not only the desktop ISO).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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