From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via live image
To: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 5:42 PM
Lance, the testcase in question
covers using the raring install cd to
"upgrade" a quantal installation. That's supported, valid,
and should be
tested :-)
That lines up with the comment on the bug as well. Right?
Nicholas
On 04/17/2013 06:17 PM, Lance wrote:
I think my method of communication is the problem.
We now offer two upgrade tests:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases
That's true for all flavors.
The one titled "Upgrade" is fine.
The one I found problematic was the one titled "Upgrade
(image)".
Now look here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1101073/comments/3
At the end you'll see, "for the final released 13.04
image and installs of 13.04, it should not offer any
"upgrade" options. 13.04 released final image should only
offer upgrades for 12.10 installations and older.
At the moment this is the desired design and
expectation."
So I assume that all of the "Upgrade (image)" tests
should be removed from the tracker.
Lance
--- On Wed, 4/17/13, Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via
live image
To: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 4:20 PM
This is relevant here perhaps:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-March/002262.html
The upgrade tests are intended to test the previous
(stable)
release to
the current (dev) release. As xnox noted the
ability to
upgrade in-place
for a dev version exists, but imho we don't want to
test or
support such
a thing. The supported path is from stable to
stable, via
lts to lts or
previous to next stable. If your running the
development
version like we
all do :-), images are important to test to ensure
installation happen
properly and the installer is working correctly.
Obviously
we don't want
in-cycle upgrade issues, but if they exist, they
will only
affect the
testing users (if we went rolling, this would all
be
different/matter
:-) ). As such, in-cycle upgrades aren't an issue
for a
final release --
we want to ensure the previous->current upgrade
path
works well. In
other words, for all intents and purposes, it
doesn't matter
if the Jan
18th iso install clean upgrades with today's iso or
not --
so long as
quantal does so :-) Note that of course, it matters
to some
of us brave
development release users, but I'm speaking for the
majority
of folks
who run stable ;-).
Make sense?
Nicholas
On 04/17/2013 04:06 PM, Lance wrote:
Major change if I'm reading this right:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1101073/comments/3
"for the final released 13.04 image and
installs of
13.04, it should not offer any "upgrade" options.
13.04
released final image should only offer upgrades for
12.10
installations and older.
At the moment this is the desired design and
expectation."
So maybe that upgrade test should be removed
altogether???
Lance
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test
- via
live image
To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:57 PM
Just thought to add;
If we move it to the desktop image testing
it
should
possibly be "optional" rather than
"mandatory".
But my original point, which I did a poor
job of
explaining,
is that upgrading via the live image is
very much
dependent
on the date the image was produced rather
than a
"weekly"
cycle :^)
Lance
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test
- via
live
image
To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:41 PM
Just to catch everyone up on the
basics; beginning with Maverick
ubiquity began
offering
an
upgrade path that's quite different
than both
the
standard
upgrade via the update-mangler or via
the
alternate
image.
Basically, based on my own experience,
this
option will
only
be offered if you have only one Ubuntu
based
distro
installed. So if you're multi-booting
two or
more
Ubuntu
based distros (like Xubuntu and
Lubuntu) you'll
never
see
it, but I have still seen the option if
I'm
dual-booting
with either Windows or Fedora.
Anyway if you look at Upgrade Lubuntu
on the
QA
Tracker
you'll now see two tests:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases
The one that's called "Upgrade (image)"
is the
one I'm
talking about ;^)
So what's the problem?
Well, having it lumped into standard
upgrade
testing
you
first see this page where it says,
"This build
is valid
for
a week, starting on 2013/04/12 at 21:00
UTC
and
finishing on
2013/04/19 at 21:00 UTC.":
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases/1498/results
You can of course read more on the
testcase
specific
page:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info
So I'm thinking that this live-image
upgrade
test
should
actually be moved from the "Upgrade
Lubuntu"
section to
the
Desktop images tests ............ but
I'm just
thinking
out
loud ATM.
That's why I'm not filing a bug against
the
tracker, I
felt
it best to have an open discussion
before doing
so.
Particularly since this is something
rather new
to
most
testers.
Lance
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