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Re: Lubuntu 13.10 beta

 

Hi again,

This time testing the newest daily build (Sep 17 2013) of

saucy-desktop-amd64.iso

in my Toshiba (a direct install, no virtualisation)

http://www.toshiba.se/laptops/satellite-pro/c850/satellite-pro-c850-19w/

using mem=xxxM to limit the RAM usage

RAM = 512 MB, 768 MB and 1024 MB

1. Finished gracefully, but froze after I clicked reboot. Working system
installed (available after 'force reboot' looooong press of power
button, SysRq REISUB not responding).

2. Tried again and it froze very early, before copying files.

3. Powered off for a long time. Removed the USB pendrive. Tried again
and had the same result as the first time: Finished gracefully. I could
peek behind the curtain with ctrl+alt+F1: I could see that a lot of data
were swapped (more than 250 MB), which might not be available in a
virtual system with a small virtual disk.

But it froze after I clicked reboot ... as the first time

Something in the system remembers old data. It seems that all variables
are not initiated, which is a horrible bug. I've had such problems long
ago, when I was developing and debugging programs. It is hard to tell if
it is some firmware, the BIOS or Lubuntu that is guilty.

Tried only once with 768 MB RAM and 1024 MB: Finished gracefully, but
froze after I clicked reboot.

RAM 1280 MB

Finished gracefully, and no freeze. "Please remove ... and press Enter"
not visible because graphics mode, bug 966480. And it did reboot after
pressing Enter. Working system installed.
--
Comment 1: Install was selected directly at the syslinux screen (not via
live desktop). I did not use the mouse only keyboard keys, and used the
very simplest install 'use the whole disk'.

Comment 2: at RAM = 1280 MB KVM behaved like the real computer except
that plymouth run in graphical mode in the real computer, but in text
mode in KVM.

Comment 3:

The options at the login screen work after logout only in the live
session, but not in the installed system. But after installing

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/daily

according to this mail from nikth, some of the options work (for example
to select session, but the one for high contrast works for me only at
the log in screen, never in the sessions).

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Bug #1213837 (I cannot select an Xsession after logout from
Lubuntu Saucy Daily) - Fix Committed
Date: 	Wed, 18 Sep 2013 04:18:03 +0200
From: 	Nik Th <nikth@xxxxxxx>
To: 	lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: 	lubuntu users mailing list <lubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Thanks to all who participated and involved to this bug[1], now has been
resolved.

A Fix committed to the package "lightdm-gtk-greeter" version 1.6.1 and
the problem gone.

You can check it right away, by opening a terminal and apply the
following commands (in order to upgrade to 1.6.1 version)

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/daily
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade

[1] -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1213837

Regards
NikTh
----------------------------------------

Best regards
Nio

On 2013-09-18 08:27, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Back to saucy-desktop amd64 16th Sept build... Just done trying install
> on KVM (and default graphics) with
> 
> RAM = 512 MB
> 
> Froze early while copying files. No system installed.
> 
> RAM = 784 MB and 1024 MB
> 
> Finished gracefully, but froze after I clicked reboot. Working system
> installed (available after 'force reboot').
> 
> RAM = 1280 MB
> 
> Finished gracefully, and no freeze. "Please remove ... and press Enter"
> visible because text mode. And it did reboot after pressing Enter.
> Working system installed.
> --
> Comment 1: Install was selected directly at the syslinux screen (not via
> live desktop). I did not use the mouse only keyboard keys, and used the
> very simplest install 'use the whole disk'.
> 
> Comment 2: at RAM = 1280 MB VBox behaved like KVM at RAM = 784 MB and
> 1024 MB, and I think this indicated problems because of low RAM. The
> different levels of RAM is probably due to differences in configuration
> of the virtual machines.
> -----
> I plan to continue testing in a real computer now.
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> On 2013-09-17 22:58, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> Back to saucy-desktop amd64 16th Sept build... Just done an install on
>> VBox with RAM = 1Gb. No hang at reboot, got the message to remove the CD
>> and hit Enter... Rebooted fine and is a happy little VBox 13.10 lubuntu :D
>>
>> Thanks Sergio, you came onto IRC to answer how much RAM you use just at
>> the right time!!!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 September 2013 21:54, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     yeah, we 're all good at complaining :P It really is a case of keep
>>     an eye on which kernel you're on. kernel freeze 
>>
>>     Thurs Oct 03 - Kernel Freeze (~2 weeks away)
>>
>>     So, everyone.. keep your eyes open and ensure you do dist-upgrades
>>     to running 13.10 instances and zsync up your ISO's before testing....
>>
>>     And also worth a
>>     mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1213837 the
>>     fix is in PPA for anyone who wants to check it out.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Phill.
>>
>>
>>     On 17 September 2013 21:46, Lars Noodén <lars.nooden@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:lars.nooden@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 09/17/2013 11:41 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>         > Hi Lars,
>>         >
>>         > confused @ phillw ...
>>         >
>>         http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds/52687/testcases
>>         >
>>         > Regards,
>>         >
>>         > Phill.
>>
>>         There were apparently no freezes on those days.  (If I recall
>>         correctly.)  I'm usually good about complaining if something
>>         goes awry.
>>          As mentioned in the other thread, I can't get the freezes to
>>         happen on
>>         demand.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         /Lars



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