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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Federico Leoni <effelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 2013/11/15 David Yentzen <dbyentzen@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
> amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Lubuntu Community,
> >>
> >> Kindly have a read at this Blueprint/Proposal:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-community-council
> >>
> >> And, if you are using a Cell Phone or any device and for whatever reason
> >> can't access the link, here is the text:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Lubuntu Community Council is my proposal/idea to clean the current mess
> in
> >> Lubuntu Community and solve the pending issues that the community is
> facing
> >> in order to move forward to build a healthy community and a rock solid
> >> system for old machines with LTS.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Given Information:
> >> ------------------------------
> >> 1- Lubuntu Community Has NO Actual Leader Starting from 15-May-2012 -
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html
> >>
> >> 2- Lubuntu Community and Sub-Teams are a real mess. Lubuntu
> Communications
> >> Sub-Team and Lubuntu QA Team are both without 'Active' Team Leaders. The
> >> whole team needs a clean up, reorganize and re-assessment.
> >>
> >> 3- The Activities of the Community has dropped due to lack of
> >> communications and some core old members of the team has
> left/quit/resigned
> >> and the rest are inactive and only very few are still active but that
> is not
> >> enough.
> >>
> >> 4- Lubuntu 13.10 was a bit of disappointment for as per users and
> members
> >> feedback and some nasty bugs.
> >>
> >> -----------------
> >> Roadmap:
> >> -----------------
> >> A- Not only one person must lead Lubuntu but instead of that, a
> Community
> >> Council consists of many members - the idea inspired by:
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
> >>
> >> B- LCC (Lubuntu Community Council) elect one member to lead this
> Community
> >> Council at the very beginning of each release cycle  and this election
> will
> >> take place every 6 months. Members of LCC will elect their leaders.
> >>
> >> C- This is a NON-Technical Board or Council.
> >>
> >> D- This Council is in charge of:
> >> 1- Lubuntu Guards and Keepers - make sure everything goes as smooth as
> >> possible and make sure Ubuntu Code of Conducts applies and everyone
> respects
> >> the other.
> >> 2- Make sure to build a healthy community based on Team Work, Sharing
> and
> >> Motivation.
> >> 3- No Dictatorship: No one will lead the whole community but instead a
> >> group of people will do that.
> >> 4- Any Lubuntu Member can be a member of this Community Council.
> >> 5- Team Leaders of Lubuntu Sub-Teams are members of this Council.
> >>
> >> E- Requirements:
> >> 1- Must be Active Lubuntu Member at least for 6 months Minimum.
> >> 2- Members must have proven record of some Lubuntu Community Experience
> >> (NON-Technical) and members with minimum one year with Lubuntu
> Community are
> >> preferred.
> >> 3- Technical People can join but the above points (#1 and #2) must
> apply.
> >> 4- Must sign Ubuntu Code of Conducts.
> >> 5- Must have a Wiki Page.
> >> 6- Must have proven record of team work.
> >> 7- Friendly and nice.
> >> 8- Must communicate.
> >> 9- Must leave a note if he/she is busy or will be away.
> >> 10- Before stepping down, must give a notice
> >>
> >> F- Decision Making:
> >> Lubuntu Community Council is in charge of decision making and the future
> >> of Lubuntu is between the hands of this council. HOWEVER, NO decision
> to be
> >> made UNLESS the whole community (members+users) must be aware of that -
> to
> >> send an email to the mailing list. Some decisions can be made by this
> >> council if and only if it is a derision that requires a high skill of
> >> Community Experience + Technical Experience which other users may not
> meet
> >> this requirement. But all in all, each and every decision will be made
> >> publicly.
> >>
> >> G- Meeting:
> >> Lubuntu Community Council must have at least one meeting per month. Even
> >> better, one meeting every two weeks if possible. After the meeting, the
> log
> >> must be shared with everyone belong to Lubuntu Community + must be
> published
> >> on Lubuntu Social Media
> >>
> >> H- Launchpad:
> >> This Council must have a Launchpad Team +  a Mailing List. The
> >> owner/creator of that team on Launchpad is NOT necessarily the leader of
> >> this Council.  He/She could be anyone who would like to help to set up
> this
> >> area.
> >>
> >> I- This proposal idea will be on this blueprint. Lubuntu Brainstorming
> >> Team will be assigned to this proposal. Team Leader of Lubuntu
> Brainstorming
> >> Team must send an email to both Lubuntu Brainstorming Team + The General
> >> Mailing List.
> >>
> >> J- Discussion will be made here and if most of the active members of
> >> Lubuntu Community Agree, this idea will be implemented immediately.
> >>
> >> K- Lubuntu Community Members can propose some changes on the above but
> >> must communicate first with Lubuntu Brainstorming Team before doing
> >> anything. Or simply, just add your comment to the whiteboard.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> amjjawad
> >> Lubuntu Brainstorming Team Leader
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
> >>
> >> --
> >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >> Best Regards,
> >> amjjawad
> >> Areas of Involvement
> >> My Projects
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > Dear Lubuntu Community,
> >   +1 This is an excellent idea. Lubuntu, in the long term, is better off
> > being led by a rotating group of active members of the community. This
> > ensures the workload and tasks of the community are shared among members
> and
> > avoids individual member burnout or overburden.
> > If this is not done and Lubuntu continues in its current direction, I do
> not
> > hold high hopes for it long-term. Every organization, at some point in
> its
> > early development, makes the transition from a small size to a larger
> more
> > complex size. How successfully this is done determines, in a large way,
> the
> > long-term success of the organization. The community council model is the
> > best way to ensure Lubuntu's continued existence because it more fairly
> > distributes the tasks and no one person becomes overburdened.
> >  Let's move forward.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > David Yentzen
> > https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen
> >
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> I agree Ali,
>

Hello Federico,

Many thanks for sharing your opinion. We do need to communicate and share
our thoughts. Much appreciated :)


>
> this could be a good way to back on track, and Lubuntu really needs
> that now. LTS is not so far as we can think and without a good
> reorganization we will fail.


Well said.



> The problem is, who could be a member of
> the new council? Not me, as you know Ali I can't assume control on any
> Team now, nor help constantly. My real life (and my new business
> incoming) first. Beside that I travel A LOT, so would be difficult to
> properly follow a project.
>

The current Team Leaders + anyone who would like to step in and as per the
proposal, there are some requirements but that can be changed to make life
easier and to attract new people. What we need is people who love Lubuntu
and willing to go the extra miles. I don't mean to burn themselves like I
have done tons of time despite how many times my wise friend and wonderful
mentor, Phill, used to advise me over and over again but I didn't listen
because I love Lubuntu. We need people who care. People who communicate.
Honestly, I personally don't care much anymore whether someone has been
around for 3 years or someone has joined 3 days ago. If that person has a
passion and willing to give more and come up with new things every now and
then to improve Lubuntu, then he/she might be the best candidate.

I have some names in mind. But I can not propose these names. I am waiting
for them to step in. I have a vision. I could be wrong but I still see the
future of this community with some people, most of them are new to this
family but they have showed a great passion and care.

I know you are busy. What you are doing right now called 'care'. You care,
you reply. You care, you share. This kind of people what we do need.
Lubuntu needs those who care and share.

You have shared a lot of amazing information that I don't even know at some
points. You have been a huge assist when you first stepped in and helped or
shared your ideas. Your project, which sadly didn't see the light (well,
because ... ) is a great project that could help Windows XP Users to
migrate to Lubuntu. Again, sadly it did not see the light :(

If real life will take you from us, it makes us sad but at the same time,
thankful for all what you have shared. Remember my thread about video and
720p, etc? for two years in Lubuntu, I have never been excited about
something like I was with that thread :D great information and wonderful
thread.


>
> Mmmmm.... Curiously I'm still here working for testing/QA. :)
>
> F.
>

You are welcome anytime and your help, support and contributions are highly
needed and appreciated :)

Thank you so much!

-- 
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>