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[MARK CALLAGHAN <mdcallag@xxxxxxxxx>]

If Yoshi's slides are only to serve as fodder in the MariaDB v MySQL
marketing battle then I hope they don't get published.

MySQL 5.6 has bugs, new features in 5.6 have even more bugs. That isn't a
surprise, that is an opportunity for people like me and companies like
Percona to help make it better. The surprise to me is that early 5.6
releases are in good shape despite so many changes.

Negative opinions about releases should be earned. If you think 5.6.X is
bad, you had better spent some time using it to figure that out. I hope
this side of the world doesn't become full of unearned opinions. Too much
marketing like that will limit your community.

Given Justin's list of problems he encountered, it looks like he earned his
opinion.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Colin Charles <byte@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 16:06, MARK CALLAGHAN <mdcallag@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Why do you claim it wasn't GA ready? By MySQL standards I think it was
> very stable early on. You can decide whether I am more or less biased than
> other people making comments on this. Given that I have no experience with
> something like Oracle, I am not sure that early Oracle releases for a new
> major version are any better.
> >
>
> I am merely inferring from Justin's comments, which you can also read[1].
> In fact, from your own team at Facebook:
> - DROP/ALTER table was slow. Fast implementation in 5.5 didn't make it to
> 5.6, fixed
> - GTID implementation in production is hard to do in 5.6 (I understand
> facebook-5.6 has some solution around this possibly)
> - http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=70265
> - http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=68220 (maybe not a bug, but a
> behavioural oddity)
> -
> https://www.facebook.com/notes/mysql-at-facebook/eq_range_index_dive_limit-system-variable-in-mysql-56/10151533648715933(maybe even you wrote this? One can't tell from the FB note)
>
> There's a longer list in Yoshinori's excellent talk on MySQL 5.6 at
> Facebook. I hope those slides make it online somewhere/sometime
>
> And given that I also have no experience with something like Oracle, I
> have no idea if their new releases are any better either or take a similar
> amount of time to stabalize
>
> I see you have commented on the blog post, I look forward to the
> discussion there as well.
>
> cheers,
> -colin
>
> [1] - What maybe is not clear overall are the reasons as to why some
> features in MariaDB are being re-written. I see some good documentation in
> an example like https://mariadb.atlassian.net/browse/MDEV-452 but this is
> not always the case as to why there is reasoning for a decision (some are
> probably in commit logs, some are probably discussed on IRC, etc.)
>
>
> --
> Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist
> MariaDB | t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
>
>


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Mark Callaghan
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