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[Daniel Kelly <myself@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Casey's statements completely, maybe the document could use
some refinement but your (Luke) attitude and ultimatums are the problems.
They are not constructive what-so-ever.

Thank you,
Dan

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:48 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Casey Rodarmor <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > <lkcl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> except, as i've patiently mentioned each time people very kindly
> contribute
> >> their insights: the project leader, ignatius, has made it absolutely
> >> clear that any efforts to provide insights - even sadly yours, casey,
> >> are neither necessary nor needed.  the "pathological 100% certainty
> >> decision" has already been made, in advance.
> >
> > This isn't the case. The comment was that the community and
> > contributors seem happy,
>
>  ... without actually consulting them... which makes it extremely hard
> for them to say "actually, i disagree..".  which is actually in some
> ways a much more important secondary issue than anything that the
> actual toxic document.
>
> > that nobody seemed terrorized, and that the
> > code of conduct has been applied thoughtfully. This squares with my
> > own observations.
>
>  *sigh* sometimes it's just not possible to see past the mental
> filters of our own making.  and that's ok, you know?
>
> > I don't think that Igno has anything to apologize for, or that backers
> > will care one whit.
>
>  given that there's been no response from ignotius, i will definitely
> be informing people that the project is run unethically, and should
> not be invested in.
>
> > Please stop issuing ultimatums and making ungrounded predictions about
> > the project failing. It simply isn't helpful.
>
>  i hear what you're saying: however that's not for you or me to decide
> [and definitely not for you to tell me what i should or should not do,
> apologies if that wasn't your intent to imply that].  it's up to
> readers of the archives to decide for themselves.
>
> > I've said everything that I feel needs to be said, so I won't belabor
> > the point further.
>
>  it's ok, casey.
>
> l.
>
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