Re: [Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

[Dylan McCall <dylanmccall@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jan Claeys <lists@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Op dinsdag 27-04-2010 om 12:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Shane
> Fagan:
>> > I think because these particular apps are designed to run in the
>> > background and are used often when multitasking, we should keep the
>> > close button minimizing to the notification area unless they
>> > specifically choose "Quit."
>>
>> I still dont think that its right to use the close button. Thats why I
>> suggested in my last email making another button just to minimise to
>> the notification area.
>
> The close button has never meant "close the application".  I mean,
> closing gnome-panel because you click on the close-button of the window
> that you get with Alt+F2 would be completely crazy, right?  ;)
>
> It also doesn't do that in Firefox or OOo (unless you close the last
> window).  It doesn't do that for windows that are launched by panel
> applets etc. either.  There are lots of examples like that
>
>
> Something that would be useful is an "animation" that makes it clear
> that the closed window belongs to a background-application that will
> give feedback in the indicator area.
>
> Most applications will also need a way to start without a window
> (especially when launched at startup, but maybe also otherwise), but I
> agree that that shouldn't be the default.
>
>
> --
> Jan Claeys
>

Really happy to see lots of people putting this forward; this is how
it should be :)

The window close button meaning "close this application," even if we
did go with it, would be horrifically inconsistent. Consider that
Firefox should NEVER have that functionality. Now we have it meaning
"Quit" in one case and "Close" in another. Besides that, these buttons
are attached to a given window, not an application.

The difference between Firefox, GIMP and Rhythmbox, though, is that
the former two exit completely when they are no longer useful and they
don't change any UI outside of their own windows as created by the
user. Rhythmbox, on the other hand, creates that indicator applet, so
people actually need to use the "Quit" option to get rid of it. In my
opinion, nobody should ever need to think about whether a given
process is running or not...


Dylan