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["Fabrice Henrion" <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ismael,

 

I will let OpenERP R&D confirm this, but we don’t have plan to extend the
offline capability to all modules, simply because it is impossible without
crippling its usage. Here is why: if you allow offline changes that get
uploaded when you come back online, what do you expect the software to do
when 2 users do something different offline on a single record? Eg: one user
changes an opportunity to qualified stage and another one changes it to
negotiation stage. Worse, what do you expect when one user goes in one
direction of the workflow and another one goes in another direction. You
might want to propose to have a system of alerts where the second user
making the change would be notified, but can you imagine how unmanageable
that would become after spending several hours working in OpenERP and when
you come online the system tells you that half of what you did cannot be
processed.

>From what I have seen, the way other software applications like Sage do it
is with a system of locking. A user can lock a record or a list of records
(online) and can work on it offline, and then release the result of his work
when he’s done and that he comes back online. This is very uncomfortable
because you end up with tons of records locked here and there and other
people in the company cannot modify what they need to. Who has worked with
Sharepoint and never had to go to the desk of his colleague to ask him to
unlock a file…

The reason why it’s possible to go offline with the POS is because it is
only adding records; you are not modifying existing records. So all you do
is push new information to the ERP. Therefore, the offline mode makes sense
for any other application that requires only to push new information to the
ERP. 

Forget about an offline mode on, say, quotations. That would be a nightmare
of “update” conflict management between users (salespeople and their manager
typically).

 

Best,

__
Fabrice Henrion
Director of Business Development Americas

OpenERP Inc.
260 Main Street – Suite 203
Redwood City, CA 94063
Tel: +1 (650) 307-6736

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From: openerp-community-bounces+fhe=openerp.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:openerp-community-bounces+fhe=openerp.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ismael Carrero
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:48 AM
To: openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Fwd: OpenERP touchscreen module

 

Hi, Dinil,
I don't know the inner working of Openbravo web POS, could you be more
specific about your plan? Does anybody know if OpenERP has any plans in
respect to implement the offline functionality in a generic way for any
module, or if they plan to maintain the current framework they used in 6.1
por POS module?
In case they haven't this in their heads, coudn't the community start such
project if enough people were interested in it? I think this is a very
interesting feature for OpenERP.

El 13/11/2012 14:27, Dinil UD escribió:

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dinil UD <dinilud@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Openerp-community] OpenERP touchscreen module
To: dreis.pt@xxxxxxxxxxx



 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dinil UD <dinilud@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] OpenERP touchscreen module
To: Ismael Carrero <icarrero@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



hi , 

 

Next week we planned to start working on POS application. The aim is make
the POS similar like web POS of openbravo. I had some experience on
modifying openerp's POS. 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Ismael Carrero <icarrero@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Daniel,
here in our company we are asessing the option of extending the offline
functionality of the point_of_sale module, which uses backbone.js and local
storage in the client (big screen smartphones in our case) to the module we
are developing (and to any generic module by extension).
If you are interested in cooperation of any kind, please contact me, I think
there must be many more companies interested in this line and we could
cooperate.
Regards
Ismael Carrero

El 13/11/2012 13:23, Daniel Reis escribió:

Dear community,

At my company, SECURITAS, we are currently using OpenERP Project modules for
field service management.
Also, we would like to equip our field service personnel with a mobile
solution to make it easier for them to manage their assigned tasks and fill
out each intervention's work report.

They already carry laptops with 3G communications, but it isn't practical
enough.
So we're considering to also equip them with a tablet device, probably 7"-8"
Android, and provide a touch screen ready app to let them do this work on
OpenERP.

I had a look at the POS, a I believe that a similar App could provide a
viable solution for our needs.
The offline ability is an important feature for our use-case, since
sometimes work is carried out in places with no GSM or WIFI connection, like
underground locations or remote sites.

My current task is to assess the viability of a satisfactory OpenERP-based
solution for this, and get an idea of what what kind of costs such a project
might involve.
Right now are rather autonomous in 6.0-style module development, but this
project requires some specific technical knowledge, so we are willing to
outsource it.

So, I would appreciate experiences, comments and suggestions.

Thanks and regards,
Daniel Reis





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