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[Luis Panozzo <luis.panozzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, all ...
Having been in the software industry for many years I have to concur with
Josef.
Credibility is the one asset that everyone should strive for and it has to
be built as a never-ending effort.
Of course that software quality is paramount but it is not accompanied by a
coherent eco-environment it may become a moot issue.
OpenERP is competing against very powerful contenders and all of them can
-and will- use every single tool in their arsenal to belittle our product.
We should not give them additional ammunition at least.
A constantly moving release date looks amateurish and gives a sense of lack
of guidance, one of the main elements used by the MS or Oracle´s of the
world to battle open source and community efforts.
(But -to be frank- many proprietary software company miss their dates, too)
So it is best to be a bit more conservative rather than overly aggressive
in the setting of dates, investing the necessary resources to make them
realistic. And then to keep them.
I rest my case.

Luis Panozzo (Lp)
Technology Manager
Elmatica AS
luis.panozzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx



On 9 July 2014 10:37, Josef Kaser <Josef.Kaser@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
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> OK, thanks for pointing this out, but I don’t agree. July 7th was
> announced as the official release date of v8. Nobody, neither Fabien nor
> Antony or anyone else, did mention this release to be a RC or a
> pre-release. An official release is an official release, not a RC. So far
> for the dogmatic part…
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>
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> It would be no problem if there would be a roadmap with the release dates
> for RC[1..x] and for the official release, and if the roadmap’s deadlines
> would be met.
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>
> Please see it from the partners’ and from the customers’ perspective:
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>
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> -          partners may lose potential (and maybe even existing)
> customers because they (the partners) relied on the announced release date
>
> -          customers, especially in the targeted SME market, want to have
> confidence in their software vendors; if they don’t have they will look for
> alternatives, and then they are lost for odoo for the next five to ten years
>
>
>
> Of course it is one of the most important things to deliver a stable and
> feature rich software. But it is not good if there are being raised
> expectations that are not being fulfilled in the end.
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> Just my 2 cents…
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> Regards
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> Josef
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> *Von:* Nhomar Hernández [mailto:nhomar@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 20:01
> *An:* Raphael Valyi
> *Cc:* Josef Kaser; openerp-community
> *Betreff:* Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release
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> 2014-07-08 12:37 GMT-04:30 Raphael Valyi <rvalyi@xxxxxxxxx>:
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> So I would say, please let's don't be dogmatic about a release date. It's
> bad to be 6 months late on release schedule (as it was for v7 initially
> announced much earlier), but it's much better to be a little late and have
> early adopter test deeply and report bugs and contribute fixes before
> freezing things for 18 months. So please no pressure to release exactly on
> date. Some good complex projects do 6 RC's before declaring something
> stable and there is no magic, unless you have a test coverage of 100% with
> very clear specifications (which we don't have), it's about the only way to
> have something both "stable" and usable for later.
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> Agreed 100% with Raph.
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> - This release can be seen as "RC-2" for v8.0 (the merge of new API).
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> - I hope we can test the new API too making some migrations of our own
> modules to avoid what we live in v5 (do you remember, bad views parsing,
> incomplete orm, slow property fields and so on?, new incomplete fetures).
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> Then KUDOS for thsi pre-release, and for the tag for us it is excellent
> (at least for me) ;-)
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