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[Luis Panozzo <luis.panozzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello, everyone ...
One week has passed from the original touted release (or availability date).
I have not heard or seen of any new date.
Someone inside of Odoo said it would happen within this month.
Does anyone have a more accurate estimated date of general availability of
V8?
Maybe we are going from the San Fermin date (7/7) to the Chinese lucky day:
8/8?
Thank you in advance
Lp

PS: Vive la France!!!!!


Luis Panozzo (Lp)
Technology Manager
Elmatica AS
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On 9 July 2014 11:08, Luis Panozzo <luis.panozzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi, all ...
> Having been in the software industry for many years I have to concur with
> Josef.
> Credibility is the one asset that everyone should strive for and it has to
> be built as a never-ending effort.
> Of course that software quality is paramount but it is not accompanied by
> a coherent eco-environment it may become a moot issue.
> OpenERP is competing against very powerful contenders and all of them can
> -and will- use every single tool in their arsenal to belittle our product.
> We should not give them additional ammunition at least.
> A constantly moving release date looks amateurish and gives a sense of
> lack of guidance, one of the main elements used by the MS or Oracle´s of
> the world to battle open source and community efforts.
> (But -to be frank- many proprietary software company miss their dates, too)
> So it is best to be a bit more conservative rather than overly aggressive
> in the setting of dates, investing the necessary resources to make them
> realistic. And then to keep them.
> I rest my case.
>
> Luis Panozzo (Lp)
> Technology Manager
> Elmatica AS
> luis.panozzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On 9 July 2014 10:37, Josef Kaser <Josef.Kaser@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, thanks for pointing this out, but I don’t agree. July 7th was
>> announced as the official release date of v8. Nobody, neither Fabien nor
>> Antony or anyone else, did mention this release to be a RC or a
>> pre-release. An official release is an official release, not a RC. So far
>> for the dogmatic part…
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be no problem if there would be a roadmap with the release dates
>> for RC[1..x] and for the official release, and if the roadmap’s deadlines
>> would be met.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see it from the partners’ and from the customers’ perspective:
>>
>>
>>
>> -          partners may lose potential (and maybe even existing)
>> customers because they (the partners) relied on the announced release date
>>
>> -          customers, especially in the targeted SME market, want to
>> have confidence in their software vendors; if they don’t have they will
>> look for alternatives, and then they are lost for odoo for the next five to
>> ten years
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course it is one of the most important things to deliver a stable and
>> feature rich software. But it is not good if there are being raised
>> expectations that are not being fulfilled in the end.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just my 2 cents…
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Josef
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Von:* Nhomar Hernández [mailto:nhomar@xxxxxxxxx]
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 20:01
>> *An:* Raphael Valyi
>> *Cc:* Josef Kaser; openerp-community
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release
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>> 2014-07-08 12:37 GMT-04:30 Raphael Valyi <rvalyi@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> So I would say, please let's don't be dogmatic about a release date. It's
>> bad to be 6 months late on release schedule (as it was for v7 initially
>> announced much earlier), but it's much better to be a little late and have
>> early adopter test deeply and report bugs and contribute fixes before
>> freezing things for 18 months. So please no pressure to release exactly on
>> date. Some good complex projects do 6 RC's before declaring something
>> stable and there is no magic, unless you have a test coverage of 100% with
>> very clear specifications (which we don't have), it's about the only way to
>> have something both "stable" and usable for later.
>>
>>
>> Agreed 100% with Raph.
>>
>>
>>
>> - This release can be seen as "RC-2" for v8.0 (the merge of new API).
>>
>> - I hope we can test the new API too making some migrations of our own
>> modules to avoid what we live in v5 (do you remember, bad views parsing,
>> incomplete orm, slow property fields and so on?, new incomplete fetures).
>>
>>
>>
>> Then KUDOS for thsi pre-release, and for the tag for us it is excellent
>> (at least for me) ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
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