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Message #01641
Re: FIFO - Accounting Plans
Hi,
In the past nine months we had two requirements for implementation of
fifo cost method in inventory.
First we read the ideea from Tryton fifo treatement. But was a lot to
develop to meet our requirements.
Now we have also implemented manufacturing requirements that track
production order with the exact cost of raw materials consumed with
tracking fifo.
Also we changed the return process to suppliers and from customers to
recover exactly fifo affected moves.
Currently the two requirements are in production and works well.
If our experience is a useful, please contact us.
B.R.
D. Gilcescu
Fil System
On Lu, 2012-04-23 at 08:17 -0400, DP Hicks wrote:
> Accounting Experts,
>
> I sent out an email that went directly to Quentin and Fabrice this
> morning but really was interested in spearheading a discussion on
> OpenERP FIFO.
>
> My client is in need of this functionality and I hear there have been
> discussions in the past regarding FIFO/LIFO. Has code been generated
> to handle this need? If not, what were the outcomes of previous
> discussions and was anything developed or were there just discussions?
>
> I want this to be a collaborative development. I have a good
> understanding of what is needed but know that I don't know everything
> about this task and the community's input is essential to the success
> of FIFO/LIFO development.
>
> Your feedback is appreciated.
>
> D.P. Hicks
> NovaPoint Group
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:15 AM, DP Hicks <dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Quentin & Fabrice,
>
> I need to see if you were able to determine how OpenERP would
> like to proceed with collaboration for FIFO. My client
> requires it for their implementation and will be wrapping up
> their project shortly. I need to proceed with this
> development and would like to follow the correct path.
>
> --
> D.P. Hicks
> President
>
>
> NovaPoint Group LLC
> 810.531.1777
> www.novapointgroup.com
> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Quentin <qdp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> i think Fabrice explained the R&D vision/roadmap
> clearly and correctly: we don't plan to work on FIFO
> for the next version as it doesn't match our aim which
> is 'to simplify openerp and make it more usable'.
> Though, it doesn't exclude totally our collaboration
> on developments driven by our community and i'd be
> glad to participate. But this is not of my resort.
> Fabrice, we will have to discuss this point with
> Antony next week.
>
> Thanks.
> Best regards,
> Quentin
>
>
>
> On 30/03/12 23:58, david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Understood. If we work together more will get done
> > which helps us all.
> >
> > Sent from my mobile phone
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> >
> > From: "Fabrice Henrion" <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:53:51 -0700
> > To: 'David Mitchell'<david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: 'DP Hicks'<dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Laurie
> > Chrostowski'<lchrostowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > 'Quentin'<qdp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: FIFO - Accounting Plans
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> >
> >
> > I wouldn’t turn it like that – saying that we don’t
> > want to focus on companies that are bigger than QB’s
> > market (after all QB Pro doesn’t allow more than 25
> > users from what I heard), and I can totally
> > understand that manufacturers of 50 employees/users
> > might need FIFO (and this is part of our target).
> > What I’m saying is that improving usability as a
> > whole not only was necessary but also has a much
> > bigger impact on OERP’s market acquisition than one
> > additional functionality. This is why it is our
> > priority for now. I’m not saying we are against it
> > or that we will never want to work on it.
> >
> > Also, the score of the FIFO feature on the feedback
> > page speaks for itself.
> >
> >
> >
> > What I agree with as well is that we need better
> > procedures to make OERP SA collaborate with the
> > community when it comes to developing a feature and
> > making sure that you are doing it the right way
> > before doing it wrong entirely. I believe it will be
> > one of the major topics that community members will
> > want to talk about with us. In that regard, R&D has
> > to come up with a process, and stick to it. I will
> > most probably have a better vision on this after my
> > stay in Belgium.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > __
> > Fabrice Henrion
> > Director of Business Development Americas
> >
> > OpenERP Inc.
> > 399 Bradford Street – Suite 101
> > Redwood City, CA 94063
> > Tel: +1 (650) 307-6736
> >
> > http://www.openerp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Mitchell
> > [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:13 PM
> > To: Fabrice Henrion
> > Cc: DP Hicks; Laurie Chrostowski; Quentin
> > Subject: Re: FIFO - Accounting Plans
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Fabrice,
> >
> > Thanks for responding and understood. So what I read
> > into this is - other successful small business
> > suites -aka Quickbooks- out of the box don't offer
> > FIFO/LIFO - only weighted average. So that is
> > OpenERP's target market. And like Quickbooks - an
> > additional module will be required to implement
> > FIFO.
> >
> > I will tell you that we have to solve the FIFO issue
> > for some of our clients. Viewed as a basic need.
> > FIFO is readily adopted in many small and medium
> > businesses (like manufacturing) here in the US. I'll
> > find a statistic somewhere as well on the adoption %
> > just so you know as well in your discussions with
> > prospects.
> >
> > In the interest of not ophaning customers on a
> > specific NPG FIFO version we will try to provide
> > some community/gathering/voice leadership in getting
> > input into the design. Hopefully, Quentin will agree
> > to participate in this as well as I know his
> > expertise and perspective would be valued - so that
> > whatever is designed has visibility from OpenERP and
> > has a "chance" to become certified.
> >
> > Certainly I think in the community FIFO is needed so
> > we will see what the demand may be/and willingness
> > to jointly develop/or at least design.
> >
> > Thanks and have a good weekend.
> >
> > David Mitchell
> >
> >
> > 2012/3/30 Fabrice Henrion <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> >
> >
> > Last time I heard Fabien talking about it, he said
> > that our priority for now was to make OpenERP more
> > easy to use and intuitive. From what I know, there
> > is no plan on our side to add FIFO/LIFO anytime
> > soon. At this point, we prefer to work on making
> > OERP very easy for small businesses that have basic
> > needs than adding functionalities.
> >
> >
> >
> > As for your question about having R&D involved in
> > the conception to make sure the community is going
> > in the direction that R&D would encourage, I’ll let
> > Quentin reply.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > __
> > Fabrice Henrion
> > Director of Business Development Americas
> >
> > OpenERP Inc.
> > 399 Bradford Street – Suite 101
> > Redwood City, CA 94063
> > Tel: +1 (650) 307-6736
> >
> > http://www.openerp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Mitchell
> > [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:18 AM
> > To: Quentin
> > Cc: Fabrice Henrion; DP Hicks; Laurie Chrostowski
> > Subject: FIFO - Accounting Plans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bonjour Quentin,
> >
> > J'espère que cet e-mail vous trouve bien.
> >
> > Certains de nos clients sont intéressés par FIFO.
> > Auparavant, Dhara avait mentionné que cela a été la
> > cible de la version 6.1, mais ne pas le faire dans
> > le communiqué. Je voudrais savoir si OpenERP est
> > décidé de faire ressortir cette fonctionnalité dès à
> > 7,0. Ou si vous avez déjà la conception?
> >
> > Si pas, alors pour faire avancer les choses, nous
> > l'intention d'organiser un webinaire session de
> > conception ouverte aux autres membres de l'équipe
> > d'experts comptables pour tenter de concevoir une
> > solution viable. Nous aimerions pour OpenERP à
> > participer que nous espérons la conception /
> > développement serait approprié pour la certification
> > et de le rendre utile à la communauté.
> > Serait-ce vous intéressent?
> >
> > Je vous remercie pour la mise à jour.
> >
> > Cordialement
> >
> > David Mitchell
> > Novapoint Group
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> D.P. Hicks
> President
>
>
> NovaPoint Group LLC
> 810.531.1777
> www.novapointgroup.com
> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> D.P. Hicks
> President
> NovaPoint Group LLC
> 810.531.1777
> www.novapointgroup.com
> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>
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