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Your questions Re: OpenShot Help Manual - 3rd progress report
Bonjour Olivier,
I will answer all your questions. I will have to answer in English
because my French is not good enough yet for some of what I will say.
I will answer your questions in reverse order. I will start with your
last question.
The links at the end of our emails are because Jonathan and I are
sending our emails through the Openshot.developers list server. This is
the private email discussion list for the the OpenShot Developers team
that you have joined.
If you look at the message header for this email, you will see the Cc:
line shows the email address to send to our Openshot Developers
discussion list. Sending to this address ensures that all our team (5
peaople) will be kept informed about what is happening on our project.
About gtalk: I didn't know that you could access gtalk from Linux. I
didn't know that you could use pidgin to do it. I will have to look at
this next week so I can talk with you and Jonathan.
About the new help-manual branch on launchpad:
I will push the file system hierarchy to the help-manual branch soon. I
am building the file system for this branch so that we will be able to
automatically generate .deb package files from it at any point we like
in the development of the help manual.
I am at present writing the various control files needed to build and
install the Help Manual as a Ubuntu/Debian package. When I have tested
this to ensure it works safely, I will push this file system and the
outline stage of the manual to the help-manual branch.
Then you will be able to download the package file system and files to
your computer.
When we get to that point, we will be able to discuss with Jonathan the
best way for us to all work on this manual.
We might either have a separate help-manual-<developers-name> branch
which I can merge together at agreed intervals, or we might have an
agreed work plan of who works on what part at what time on one branch.
We can discuss this with Jonathan next week when I have the basic debian
package structure up on Launchpad.
In the meanwhile, if you practice using Docbook XML to write Gnome Help
files, and read the links on the Gnome Documentation Project which you
will find on the link I sent you, you will then understand more of what
we are going to be doing.
Tchao, Helen
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:37 +0200, Olivier Girard wrote:
> Hello and thanks a lot for your help.
>
> It's exactly that i don't know familar with bazaar and, launchpad and
> participate in a project in fact. All It's new for me.
> It's very nice to your part to help me. I have generated my key, i
> have sucessed to be identified between bazaar and launchpad but i
> can't have access to help-manuel. I'have read all your links and
> othersbut i have an error :
> bzr: ERROR: Target directory
> lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual already exists, but does
> not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push
> there anyway.
> In fact i don't undersand something, According to the doc, i must
> create a branch to have acces at another. To have the code, i have
> understand but to participate really no.
> Ten minutes after this words, i have done something and i have now a
> folder help-manuel empty, that's normal ? So now i have a folder for
> the help-manual and the software.
> In all cases, it's not my day.
> I have tried to create a virtualization of two ubuntu (32 and 64 )
> that's out.
> I have tried the new version (0.94), it's the same thing (it's crashed
> when i import a file!!!)
> i have play with openshot (old version i have yet acces thanks to
> helen) and i don't find how have more time with the transitions
> i have not all understand with bazaar
> Thes points positif are for lprod (it a good new because the software
> has been to test without my intervention, i have said that the french
> communauty have seen the first post on sum-up) and the second i have
> modified the french page of wikipedia on AVCHD.(another thing that
> i've never done).
> I 'm reading the dockbook and for the moment, i understand, it 's a
> good point.
> Now, i'm going to rip a little film that i have done this morning
> about my little river which will complate the film about my little
> cat.
> If you want speak on gtalk, you can (and i have success to work
> pidgin).
> Tchao
> Olivier
> Oh another last question: how you do to have at the end all the links
> like this:
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers
> Post to : openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers
> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
> 2009/7/18 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Thanks for that Jonathan,
>
> I'll have a look at it tomorrow or Sunday.
>
> I think Olivier means he needs to generate a key first so he
> can upload
> to Launchpad. I generated my key when I first registered.
>
> I took a break from XML coding, and got to work on building
> the correct
> form of directory structure to base the whole documentation
> package on.
> I've started writing the Makefiles and other control and
> information
> files needed.
>
> It is coming along slowly because I'm having to learn how to
> do things
> at every stage. :~)
>
> I keep wondering what comments this Manual will get from
> 66666er! I
> suspect that kid is aged 13 and 3/4!
>
> I'm going to bed now because I'm exhausted. I'm getting up
> early
> tomorrow to go out with a friend.
>
> Tchao, Helen
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:21 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> > I'm not sure if you are familiar with bazaar (the source
> control in
> > LaunchPad). You need to create a local bzr repository with
> your
> > folder / files. Then commit your changes locally. And
> finally, push
> > your local commits to your new branch:
> > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
> >
> > After you get it setup, you only have to commit changes, and
> push them
> > back to bazaar. It's quite easy after it's all setup.
> >
> > Bazaar in 5 minutes:
> > http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Jonathan
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Olivier Girard
> <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > Helen
> > That's good i have found (i'm thinking) but we must
> have a key
> > for upload the manuel.
> >
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Helen
> > Sorry i'm now on launchpad but i don't find
> the new
> > branch for the manuel.
> > Olivier
> >
> > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
> <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Helen
> >
> > It's a very good job. i have a
> little speak on
> > gtalk with jonathan for the first
> time. Now he
> > have a meeting but Would you join
> us. But how
> > at tree, i don't know. We could
> speak about
> > the manuel.
> > Olivier
> >
> > 2009/7/17 Helen McCall
> > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Good thinking!
> >
> > I'll add you to the
> Authors. :-)
> >
> > Tchao, Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:41
> -0500,
> > Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> > > Sounds great Helen! Let
> me know
> > once you publish your files
> into the
> > > help-manual branch. Also,
> I would
> > be happy to author some of
> the
> > > sections of the
> help-manual, once I
> > get some free time. Once we
> are
> > > all happy with the
> structure of the
> > manual, maybe we could split
> up
> > > some of the sections and
> double-team
> > it.
> > >
> > > Also, I have 70+ blog
> entries on
> > OpenShot, covering all sorts
> of
> > > topics. Lots of
> screenshots also.
> > Even though it's written in
> a
> > > different style than a
> help manual,
> > hopefully we will be able to
> use
> > > some of that content.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > -Jonathan
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at
> 2:23 PM,
> > Helen McCall
> > >
> <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello Olivier and
> Jonathan,
> > >
> > > I'm making
> progress setting
> > out the structure in Gnome
> Help
> > > format
> > > (Docbook XML), and
> I'm
> > testing it in the Gnome Help
> system
> > > (Yelp) as I'm
> > > going.
> > >
> > > I'm using
> Jonathan's screen
> > shots for now to save time.
> > >
> > > I've put in
> credits:
> > >
> > > Authors: Helen
> McCall and
> > Olivier Girard
> > > Contributor:
> Jonathan Thomas
> > > Translator:
> Olivier Girard
> > > OpenShot
> Developer: Jonathan
> > Thomas
> > > OpenShot
> Contributor: Andy
> > Finch for the titling
> system.
> > >
> > > Manual Copyright:
> Helen
> > McCall, Olivier Girard,
> Jonathan
> > > Thomas 2009
> > > Publisher: Gnome
> > Documentation Project
> > >
> > > I've registered a
> new branch
> > in launchpad for the Manual:
> > >
> > >
> >
> lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
> > >
> > > I've set the
> "owner" to
> > "OpenShot Developers" so we
> can all
> > > access it.
> > >
> > > Tchao, Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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