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[Nick Watts <fatalglory@xxxxxxxxx>]

As requested, here's some public links to the mockup and explanation (I'm
guessing the mailing list software isn't too keen on forwarding everyone a
several-MB attachment).

Mockup PDF: http://resplect.com/sharedump/openshot/openshot_mockup.pdf
Mockup Explanation ODT:
http://resplect.com/sharedump/openshot/mockup_explanation.odt

Can anyone give me some insight onto the current progress of libopenshot?
Is it really just an idea still, or is it at least partly functional?

Is it a layer of Gstreamer like GES/GNonLin, or is it building on ffmpeg
like MLT?  Something else entirely?  I had thought that OpenShot was
basically just a PyGTK UI on top of MLT's python bindings.  Taking on the
task of writing a whole low-level C-based multimedia framework seems like a
really big step up in difficulty/complexity.  Not meaning this as a rude
question, but is the current OpenShot team really up to it?  From the
outside looking in it seems like a bit of a not-invented-here type issue.
Hoping someone in the know can convince me that OpenShot is still the best
video editor project to try and contribute too, that it's not about to tank
as all the developers get bogged down in the complexities of their new
media framework.

Even just knowing that libopenshot has actually made some progress and what
its currently capable of would go a long way.  Anyone able to comment?

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:24 PM, eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> What introduction and welcome in the free Open source world and specially
> in the project Openshot Video Editor.
>
> Could you put again your attachment ? It seems to be lost somewhere. :-(
>
> Like Andy have already said, there are in our todo-list and it will be
> great if somebody would/could like to implement them.
>
>  Effectivelly, we 'll change last year at our own library called
> libopenshot which will replace MLT. So, it doesn't matter if you are not
> familiar with MLT.
>
> For the moment, nobody other the core engine of the project has access at
> this one. Don't worry, when she will be finished this situation will change.
>
> First, lest take a look at your ideas.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> 2012/6/17 Nick Watts <fatalglory@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Wow, that does change things.  That's a pretty big step to take, may I
>> ask what the key reasons are?  I'm not that familiar with MLT, does it have
>> some major shortcoming?  Also, is there somewhere I can check out the
>> progress, details, etc. of the new library?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> I think your attachment got lost somehow, could you send it again?
>>>
>>> In general, those new features you mention are all on the todo list, so
>>> it would be great to have someone working on them.
>>>
>>> One thing to bear in mind at the moment - later this year, work will
>>> begin on moving Openshot away from using the MLT video library to our own
>>> library. This will affect those features you mention.
>>>
>>> But lets take a look at your ideas first and start from there.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>> On 16 June 2012 04:09, Nick Watts <fatalglory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Openshot crew, my name's Nick.  I'm an ex-software developer, but I
>>>> still code for a hobby.  I'm interested in doing some work on Openshot.
>>>> I've been a Cinelerra user in the past, and there's some particular
>>>> features that I'd like to try and implement in Openshot (mainly the
>>>> ability
>>>> to keyframe arbitrary values and effects, like audio volume, video
>>>> opacity,
>>>> XYZ transform, etc).
>>>>
>>>> I've grabbed and browsed the code from bzr, and did a bit of a mockup
>>>> this
>>>> morning (attached).  What I was hoping for was some feedback on the
>>>> direction the mockup is going.  I know Openshot is aimed somewhat at the
>>>> beginner, and these are some slightly more advanced features that I
>>>> want to
>>>> add.  If you guys think this is incompatible with your vision for
>>>> Openshot,
>>>> that's fine.  In that event I'd probably have a crack at working on
>>>> Pitivi.  Openshot looks like a more friendly beast to hack on, but I'd
>>>> rather not have to fork it to put features in.  Again, hope that doesn't
>>>> all sound too extreme, just don't want the work to go to waste.
>>>>
>>>> Let me stress I'm not trying to tell you guys what to do.  This mockup
>>>> just
>>>> shows some things I would love to see in Openshot, and I'm prepared to
>>>> get
>>>> my hands dirty working on them.  What I really want to know is, do these
>>>> ideas line up roughly with the current future vision for Openshot?
>>>>  P.S. Is
>>>> there a UI brainstorming wiki or something I should have checked before
>>>> sending this?  I found none, but I might just have missed it or
>>>> something.
>>>> If so I'm sorry, I didn't mean to circumvent the system.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to hearing from anyone and everyone :)
>>>> God bless.
>>>>
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