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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

whatever is decided by any and all, the non-pae kernel is available to
anyone and everyone. With the next build I will be adding it to the
dedicated ppa https://launchpad.net/~phillw/+archive/non-pae3.13 this means
that people can add that ppa and receive updates to the kernel as and when
ubuntu release them (I hope to have the non-pae version within 48 hours
after each release by ubuntu kernel team).

Lubuntu 14.04 non-pae will be created in the next couple of weeks, as I
want it tested before win XP goes EoL. This is a community respin and I
need to double check with our boss as to how much 'advertising' I can give
it on the GetLubuntu areas.

@Ali, this is quite some work load for me. I'll help you out where I can
once you decide on what torios is to be, but be aware... a release will eat
your time like you've never thought possible. Just playing with the kernel
has caused me sleepless nights, I've still to make the ISO :P

Regards,

Phill.




On 19 March 2014 07:34, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Ali and Phill,
> [replying inline]
> Best regards/Nio
>
> 2014-03-19 07:06, Ali Linx skrev:
> > Hi Nio, Phill and everyone :)
> >
> > Since we have nothing serious going on here, I thought to start this
> > discussion which should be helpful for ToriOS at the end of the day :)
> >
> > So, let's see ... I'm a bit confused of what we do have. By 'we', I mean
> > the community or the group of people who are interested in 'Old
> > Hardware' and that applies to Lubuntu, ToriOS, etc.
> >
> > Not sure if everyone is aware of this or not but there you go:
> >
> > Phill and Nio, both were and still very keen to work on finding a
> > solution for old machines that are no longer supported with newer
> > released of Ubuntu and eventually Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.
> >
> > Nio was working hard on the Non-PAE part.
> > Phill was working on new community re-spin for Lubuntu.
> > We're no different here as ToriOS community as we have the same target -
> > support old machines.
> >
> > I'm trying to understand more about this .. I'm lost because of so many
> > emails have been sent and I'm not sure what is going on.
> >
> > So, how many Kernels do we have here?
> >
> > Will 14.04 default Kernel support the Non-PAE machines by default?
>
> The 14.04 32-bit kernel is a PAE kernel. There is a built-in check for
> the boot option 'forcepae', which makes it possible to use with [almost
> all] Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs. But it will not work with pre-Pentium
> II and other CPUs without PAE capability.
>
> > What is the difference then between that and the Kernel that Phill and
> > Bodhi Zazen were/are working on?
>
> This is a '14.04' non-pae kernel, that can work with CPUs without PAE
> capability.
>
> > How all that could help ToriOS so that we don't really have to re-invent
> > the wheel?
> >
> > There are 3 different paths/directions and at the end, all these meet on
> > one point (support for old machines) but still these paths are a bit
> > different so:
> >
> > 1- We need to understand more about these 3 paths.
> > 2- We might have mutual collaboration to reduce time and effort
> > 3- We, as ToriOS Community now need to understand how different we could
> > be and what we could offer?
>
> What is the third path? Do you mean continuing to build the re-spin on
> 12.04 LTS?
>
> > Sorry if my words seem crazy or unclear ... I couldn't sleep well with
> > all what is going on recently with my real life so forgive me if I'm
> > creating more confusion here while trying to understand what is going
> on?!
> >
> > I asked for a meeting with Phill and Nio. Sorry for not catching up with
> > you, guys.
> >
> > Do you prefer a Google Hangout Meeting? or an IRC one? Phill, I know
> > your answer already but in both cases, I want the meeting to be
> > recorded. Yes, I know how to do that on both platform (Google and IRC) -
> > I just need to know which one you prefer?
>
> I prefer a written chat. I'm not used to IRC, but it can work for me. I
> would be more convenient with a google (written) chat or maybe skype-chat.
>
> > Also, if anyone would like to join us, that is good too :)
> >
> > We need to re-think and re-consider our options because I want to save
> > time and effort. If there is something useful of what Phill and Nio and
> > others have done so far, I see no reason why we don't use that as well :)
> >
> > Saving time, energy and effort is a target for any project in the world.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
>
>


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