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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

linux kernel 3.13.0-18 non-pae is now available at
http://phillw.net/isos/non-pae/

Regards,

Phill.


On 19 March 2014 18:31, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> whatever is decided by any and all, the non-pae kernel is available to
> anyone and everyone. With the next build I will be adding it to the
> dedicated ppa https://launchpad.net/~phillw/+archive/non-pae3.13 this
> means that people can add that ppa and receive updates to the kernel as and
> when ubuntu release them (I hope to have the non-pae version within 48
> hours after each release by ubuntu kernel team).
>
> Lubuntu 14.04 non-pae will be created in the next couple of weeks, as I
> want it tested before win XP goes EoL. This is a community respin and I
> need to double check with our boss as to how much 'advertising' I can give
> it on the GetLubuntu areas.
>
> @Ali, this is quite some work load for me. I'll help you out where I can
> once you decide on what torios is to be, but be aware... a release will eat
> your time like you've never thought possible. Just playing with the kernel
> has caused me sleepless nights, I've still to make the ISO :P
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
>
>
> On 19 March 2014 07:34, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ali and Phill,
>> [replying inline]
>> Best regards/Nio
>>
>> 2014-03-19 07:06, Ali Linx skrev:
>> > Hi Nio, Phill and everyone :)
>> >
>> > Since we have nothing serious going on here, I thought to start this
>> > discussion which should be helpful for ToriOS at the end of the day :)
>> >
>> > So, let's see ... I'm a bit confused of what we do have. By 'we', I mean
>> > the community or the group of people who are interested in 'Old
>> > Hardware' and that applies to Lubuntu, ToriOS, etc.
>> >
>> > Not sure if everyone is aware of this or not but there you go:
>> >
>> > Phill and Nio, both were and still very keen to work on finding a
>> > solution for old machines that are no longer supported with newer
>> > released of Ubuntu and eventually Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.
>> >
>> > Nio was working hard on the Non-PAE part.
>> > Phill was working on new community re-spin for Lubuntu.
>> > We're no different here as ToriOS community as we have the same target -
>> > support old machines.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to understand more about this .. I'm lost because of so many
>> > emails have been sent and I'm not sure what is going on.
>> >
>> > So, how many Kernels do we have here?
>> >
>> > Will 14.04 default Kernel support the Non-PAE machines by default?
>>
>> The 14.04 32-bit kernel is a PAE kernel. There is a built-in check for
>> the boot option 'forcepae', which makes it possible to use with [almost
>> all] Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs. But it will not work with pre-Pentium
>> II and other CPUs without PAE capability.
>>
>> > What is the difference then between that and the Kernel that Phill and
>> > Bodhi Zazen were/are working on?
>>
>> This is a '14.04' non-pae kernel, that can work with CPUs without PAE
>> capability.
>>
>> > How all that could help ToriOS so that we don't really have to re-invent
>> > the wheel?
>> >
>> > There are 3 different paths/directions and at the end, all these meet on
>> > one point (support for old machines) but still these paths are a bit
>> > different so:
>> >
>> > 1- We need to understand more about these 3 paths.
>> > 2- We might have mutual collaboration to reduce time and effort
>> > 3- We, as ToriOS Community now need to understand how different we could
>> > be and what we could offer?
>>
>> What is the third path? Do you mean continuing to build the re-spin on
>> 12.04 LTS?
>>
>> > Sorry if my words seem crazy or unclear ... I couldn't sleep well with
>> > all what is going on recently with my real life so forgive me if I'm
>> > creating more confusion here while trying to understand what is going
>> on?!
>> >
>> > I asked for a meeting with Phill and Nio. Sorry for not catching up with
>> > you, guys.
>> >
>> > Do you prefer a Google Hangout Meeting? or an IRC one? Phill, I know
>> > your answer already but in both cases, I want the meeting to be
>> > recorded. Yes, I know how to do that on both platform (Google and IRC) -
>> > I just need to know which one you prefer?
>>
>> I prefer a written chat. I'm not used to IRC, but it can work for me. I
>> would be more convenient with a google (written) chat or maybe skype-chat.
>>
>> > Also, if anyone would like to join us, that is good too :)
>> >
>> > We need to re-think and re-consider our options because I want to save
>> > time and effort. If there is something useful of what Phill and Nio and
>> > others have done so far, I see no reason why we don't use that as well
>> :)
>> >
>> > Saving time, energy and effort is a target for any project in the world.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>>
>>
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