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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 08/11/2014 08:55 PM, dbyentzen@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On 2014-08-11 13:39, Ali Linx wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 08/11/2014 08:57 PM, Paul Sutton wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps during the testing phase, we could include programs like
>>> lshw (list hardware) and inxi to aid diagnostics or generally to aid
>>> diagnostics, we could then ask people before asking questions to
>>> look up how info on their system.
>>>
>>> just a thought
>>
>>  Such applications/programs/tools like: lshw which only require "CLI"
>> is definitely fine to add without the need to ask whether to add or
>> not :)
>>
>>  But what I was trying to explain on my previous email is we should
>> avoid adding too much GUI applications. Why? because the idea of
>> ToriOS is to give the user 100% freedom to build his/her system the
>> way he/she wants.
>>
>>  We offer the basic. They build the rest. This is ToriOS philosophy :)
>>
>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>  Thanks for your thought :)
>>
>>> On 11/08/14 13:48, Ali Linx wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/11/2014 04:11 PM, Israel wrote:
>>> Hi Ali and everyone,
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I guess the web browser will be the thing to handle all of those
>>> file types.
>>> So, Ali what web browser are we using?
>>>
>>> Since the very first days of ToriOS Project, I have shared my
>>> vision regarding the default applications. ToriOS should have only:
>>>
>>> Core System+Packages
>>> Terminal
>>> Browser
>>> Synaptic
>>> File Manager
>>> and very very few necessary applications
>>>
>>> However, after I replied the email (I was half asleep when I did
>>> and from my cell), I had an idea and I'd like to share it:
>>>
>>> Definitely, having very few applications by default might keep some
>>> users away from our system. There is something you need to
>>> understand that some very well-known Linux Distributions out there
>>> have NO desktop-package and if they do want to release an update,
>>> users have to download the whole thing (ISO) and even though, these
>>> distros are well-known and wildly used. ToriOS will be something
>>> much better hopefully.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm thinking to have two versions:
>>> 32-bit for the old machines which is this project is all about.
>>> 64-bit the very same 32-bit version BUT with more apps so those
>>> with newer machines can use ToriOS specially if they are new to
>>> GNU/Linux.
>>>
>>> The browser on the 32-bit can be something very simple and less
>>> powerful than Firefox.
>>>
>>> Firefox will be the default for 64-bit.
>>>
>>> So, the Q is:
>>>
>>> Are we okay with this?
>>>
>>> If yes, will that add more burden on our shoulders?
>>>
>>> We need to study our options and then decide ...
>>>
>>> I must say that I have never thought ToriOS 1.0 will be developed
>>> this great way and this is what is motivating me and encouraging me
>>> to give more to our users :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On 08/11/2014 02:12 AM, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Before you waste your time, everyone .. Please do understand that I
>>> have mentioned many times that ToriOS will NOT be shipped with
>>> default applications except the very needed ones. That said, there
>>> will be nothing as email program nor video player, etc.
>>>
>>> I shall send the list of what to be included and NO poll is
>>> required.
>>>
>>> Hope you see my point :)
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>
> Hi Ali et al,
>   Thanks for the further refinement for your vision of ToriOS. I do
> have a question. First though, I am totally happy with the concept of
> giving the user a minimal, simple, fast, and small OS and then letting
> them build it as they see fit. My question:  Where will the users look
> to for a repository of ToriOS compatible apps? Or should it even be a
> community concern?
>
> Specifically, even for a 64 bit machine, FF is large, slow, and uses
> lots of memory. I believe Qupzilla is a better fit for ToriOS( 64 or
> 32 bit). Qup is small, fast, and has small memory usage than FF.
>
> Additionally, for a 32 bit machine why not consider something like
> Links2 for a browser. It's a text( CLI ) browser with limited
> graphical abilities. It entirely conforms to the ToriOS vision.
>
> Just my thoughts
>
> Best
> David
>
Hi David!
ToriOS is going to be based off of Ubuntu 12.04.  So it is entirely
compatible with any thing that is compatible with Ubuntu.

I agree that we could include a text-based browser.  I see no problem
with that.

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