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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for this explanation, Phill :-)

Best regards/Nio

Den 2014-09-14 12:49, Phill Whiteside skrev:
> The hybrid kernel (the 'live' one) can be used for either system. It is
> the 'standard' kernel with some added extras to make it usable on Live
> CD that ubuntu (and others) use. The additions are classed as 'patches'
> and ubuntu adds them by default.
> 
> The original kernel is more a 'server' kernel with no LiveCD capability,
> as such is not needed on a server.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> 
> On 14 September 2014 08:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Den 2014-09-14 04:21, Israel skrev:
>     > Hi all,
>     > I have been looking into making a persistent USB image after our
>     meeting
>     > today, and I am not entirely sure I can, though Nio may have better
>     > insight here.
>     >
>     >
>     http://askubuntu.com/questions/78098/how-to-chroot-into-persistent-installation
>     >
>     > I am not entirely sure if this is something we can do for ToriOS 1.0,
>     > but it may be very important to look into.  I am sure the OBI
>     system can
>     > benefit from having persistent data, as this will make it easier
>     to make
>     > a tarball on the live system.  I could be wrong about this but I
>     wanted
>     > to put this info out here in case someone wants to look into
>     this.  I am
>     > not going to mess with this until ToriOS 1.0 is ready.... as it is
>     there
>     > is enough going on :)
>     >
>     > Also, I have been tossing around the idea of adding a Panel along the
>     > bottom with buttons for The manual and the Installer.  I think this
>     > would be a good idea, rather than using a custom menu for the Live OS,
>     > it could be a custom interface... this would make the installer easily
>     > discoverable.
>     >
>     > Any thoughts?
>     >
>     Hi,
> 
>     @ Israel and all,
> 
>     * Persistance *
> 
>     I agree that persistence is not an urgent matter at this moment, it is
>     easy enough to make a portable installed system to a USB drive with the
>     OBI installer. This does not mess with the bootloader of the internal
>     drive (which the standard installers do, unless you change that
>     manually).
> 
>     Persistence may be straight-forward to get using Unetbootin or the
>     Startup Disk Creator alias usb-creator-gtk, or to do it manually
>     (creating a casper-rw file or partition. But in this case, it is not
>     possible to use mkusb, because it makes a read-only drive with the
>     ISO9660 file system. You can make a persistent live system if the file
>     system in read-write, typically fat32 or ext2. I can make a quick check,
>     if there is something important missing.
> 
>     It also depends on the kernel. That should be no problem in 12.04, but
>     in 14.04 you must select the correct non-pae kernel. I think Phill made
>     one for installed systems and one for live systems, and you need the
>     kernel for live systems also for persistent live systems.
> 
>     * Bottom panel *
> 
>     I think a significant part of the usage of ToriOS will be with the
>     original netboot resolution, 1000x600, and then an extra solid bottom
>     panel will eat desktop space, which is already scarce. So I suggest that
>     you avoid a bottom panel.I don't particularly like autohiding panels,
>     they tend to appear by mistake and damage the work flow, when you move
>     the cursor to a place near the autohiding panel's edge of the screen.
>     Instead I suggest to put the manual and the installer as desktop icons
>     in the live system, and the manual as a desktop icon also in the
>     installed system.
> 
>     -o-
> 
>     @ Phill, have you merged those non-pae kernels now, so that one kernel
>     works well for live as well as installed systems?
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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