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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Nio,
Ah ha! The disk is read only.
That sums it up.
I suppose I could make ubiquity based installers for those who want
persistence... though I don't think the Live system is the main point of
this OS.
Though it would be good to offer a way to install with specific
partitioning.
I will look more into all of this closer to the 2.0 version of Tori OS.
For now this issue is something that will be put on the back burner.

On 09/14/2014 06:09 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Thanks for this explanation, Phill :-)
>
> Best regards/Nio
>
> Den 2014-09-14 12:49, Phill Whiteside skrev:
>> The hybrid kernel (the 'live' one) can be used for either system. It is
>> the 'standard' kernel with some added extras to make it usable on Live
>> CD that ubuntu (and others) use. The additions are classed as 'patches'
>> and ubuntu adds them by default.
>>
>> The original kernel is more a 'server' kernel with no LiveCD capability,
>> as such is not needed on a server.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 September 2014 08:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     Den 2014-09-14 04:21, Israel skrev:
>>     > Hi all,
>>     > I have been looking into making a persistent USB image after our
>>     meeting
>>     > today, and I am not entirely sure I can, though Nio may have better
>>     > insight here.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     http://askubuntu.com/questions/78098/how-to-chroot-into-persistent-installation
>>     >
>>     > I am not entirely sure if this is something we can do for ToriOS 1.0,
>>     > but it may be very important to look into.  I am sure the OBI
>>     system can
>>     > benefit from having persistent data, as this will make it easier
>>     to make
>>     > a tarball on the live system.  I could be wrong about this but I
>>     wanted
>>     > to put this info out here in case someone wants to look into
>>     this.  I am
>>     > not going to mess with this until ToriOS 1.0 is ready.... as it is
>>     there
>>     > is enough going on :)
>>     >
>>     > Also, I have been tossing around the idea of adding a Panel along the
>>     > bottom with buttons for The manual and the Installer.  I think this
>>     > would be a good idea, rather than using a custom menu for the Live OS,
>>     > it could be a custom interface... this would make the installer easily
>>     > discoverable.
>>     >
>>     > Any thoughts?
>>     >
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     @ Israel and all,
>>
>>     * Persistance *
>>
>>     I agree that persistence is not an urgent matter at this moment, it is
>>     easy enough to make a portable installed system to a USB drive with the
>>     OBI installer. This does not mess with the bootloader of the internal
>>     drive (which the standard installers do, unless you change that
>>     manually).
>>
>>     Persistence may be straight-forward to get using Unetbootin or the
>>     Startup Disk Creator alias usb-creator-gtk, or to do it manually
>>     (creating a casper-rw file or partition. But in this case, it is not
>>     possible to use mkusb, because it makes a read-only drive with the
>>     ISO9660 file system. You can make a persistent live system if the file
>>     system in read-write, typically fat32 or ext2. I can make a quick check,
>>     if there is something important missing.
>>
>>     It also depends on the kernel. That should be no problem in 12.04, but
>>     in 14.04 you must select the correct non-pae kernel. I think Phill made
>>     one for installed systems and one for live systems, and you need the
>>     kernel for live systems also for persistent live systems.
>>
>>     * Bottom panel *
>>
>>     I think a significant part of the usage of ToriOS will be with the
>>     original netboot resolution, 1000x600, and then an extra solid bottom
>>     panel will eat desktop space, which is already scarce. So I suggest that
>>     you avoid a bottom panel.I don't particularly like autohiding panels,
>>     they tend to appear by mistake and damage the work flow, when you move
>>     the cursor to a place near the autohiding panel's edge of the screen.
>>     Instead I suggest to put the manual and the installer as desktop icons
>>     in the live system, and the manual as a desktop icon also in the
>>     installed system.
>>
>>     -o-
>>
>>     @ Phill, have you merged those non-pae kernels now, so that one kernel
>>     works well for live as well as installed systems?
>>
>>     Best regards
>>     Nio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw


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