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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again Ali!

On 10/02/2014 08:24 AM, Ali Linx wrote:
>
> On 10/02/2014 02:30 PM, Israel wrote:
>> Hi Ali,
>
> Hello dear friend and brother,
>
>> it isn't the latest version, but it is a more recent build.
> The versions or the numbering of the versions need to be corrected :D
> but never mind that at the moment ;)
>
> Okay, I expected I am not using the latest but still, that experience
> was great. Thanks a lot for that :D
>
RC 1 is the installable version :)
RC stands for Revision Control...
Since the ISOmaker/OSmaker/etc.. scripts are now on GitHub we have a
revision control system.
I will release RC2 when I get some of these issues figured out...
>>
>> I am going to be testing one and I'll upload the new one soon, once I
>> fix some issues with udiskie and get OBI to install grub (when the
>> tar has nothing in  /boot/grub  this is fixed by running grub-install
>> and update-grub)
>
> How are you addressing the bugs aside from emails on this list and/or
> IRC maybe?
>
You are the only reporting them, aside from the bugs with other things
(like the locale chooser which is not ready)
So I normally just keep things in mind.
> Why not we use Launchpad for that? reporting bugs to Launchpad, just
> like Ubuntu and the other flavors do?
>
That would be fine.  I just don't feel the need to report bugs to
myself.  I simply just try to fix them.
You can report bugs against the settings manager too...
Though I have fixed quite a few in recent versions... most notably (for
the user) the background chooser...
Of course you can update your system to get those fixes.
> It would be much better for everyone.
>
> If we can't use Launchpad for whatever reason, I am sure we could use
> something else ..
>
>>
>> udiskie is the program I am using to allow users to easily mount
>> devices (CD/USB/DVD) and access them  I have been having a bit of an
>> issue with dbus and glib... I think I am missing a dependency, or
>> have done something in a slightly off order.
>> But I am getting closer.
>
> I am sure you are ;)
>
>>
>> To get internet you will have to do it manually until I upload a new ISO.
>>
>> open a terminal
>> sudo usermod -a -g netdev torios
>> will give you the right permissions to remove that error.
>>
>
> No. I am afraid that did not help at all.
>
> It did not accept "-g" so I replaced it with "-G" as it suggested but
> still, that didn't help.
>
Sorry... it is indeed -G
I currently use:
usermod -a -G adm,audio,cdrom,plugdev,netdev,sudo,users torios
in my automated scripts, and this works for me.
but that build is rather old, and you may not be in the adm group... I
had a lot to learn about..
adm allows you to be admin.  sudo allows you to be sudo.  You need both
of those.
You might have to boot to the recovery mode
and then do the above command to add all of it.

>>
>> My goal is to have a system that is as easy to use as possible...
>> after all Ubuntu was started to be 'Linux for human beings'.
>> So I am trying to do all the hard work tweaking everything.
>
> There is no doubt we can do that and there is no doubt you are doing
> that already. ToriOS is between safe hands :D
>
> Who knows? maybe ToriOS could be easier and better than any other
> system .. why not? who expected that we could achieve all that? when I
> said let's have something below 70MB RAM, I told myself after that:
> "Hey, are you crazy?" now, reality says: we have achieved even better :D
>
> It is however will not be done over night. We have no magic stick. It
> will take sometime and we can wait.
>
Patience is amazing :)  So is persistence!
>>
>> btw, the new version has seamonkey instead of Midori (small screen
>> issue with midori) but also includes links2, which is a dialog based
>> browser...
>> It is very fast for text, but can also show images as well...  not a
>> full featured browser, but good for old computers as a back-up, or
>> for quick info lookup, and it is a bit more user friendly compared to
>> lynx or some of the other terminal only browsers.
>
> You do read my minds :D
> While I was away, I used to read some emails whenever possible. I
> wanted to ask you guys to use/include two Browsers instead of one
> only. Luckily, you read my mind and you did it without me asking for
> it :D haha
>
> However, not really sure about the choice here but I will leave it for
> you. Maybe Firefox (for example) is too much for ToriOS. After all,
> the idea is to build the system by the user so .. no problems unless
> these choices will cause problems/bugs ..
>
Seamonkey is basically firefox, though it is lighter and comes with
e-mail, IRC, news feed and an HTML builder.
Puppy uses it for their default browser...
Plus it will work with almost anything that works with firefox... you
could probably even watch netflix in it using pipelight, though I
wouldn't know
>>
>> Don't worry I am getting closer every day to making a really useful
>> Tori OS.
> Me? worried? you are kidding, right? :D
>
> I am not worried at all ... but tell you the truth, I can't wait :D
>
>> I will be updating the scripts on github soon when I get certain
>> things worked out better :D
>
> Is there any way that when a bug got fixed or an update available, I
> can just update the system without re-installing and re-downloading
> the whole thing again? or we have not reached that far yet?!
>

Not yet... we still need a torios meta package for that.
I am just trying to get this to a usable Alpha.
During Beta we can look at the smallest bugs, and work on the meta
package...
Actually that would be something someone could help with (if they wanted to)


> Thanks a lot for everything!
>
> ....


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