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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ali,

I agree that more memory is not better...
However... I am working with limited resources on building this OS.  So
I am using as many pre-made tools as I can find, rather than reinventing
the wheel (unless I HAVE to in order to accomplish something specific).

If you (or anyone) knows of a better solution to allow the user to mount
a drive I would really like it.
I want it to be low memory very much so!!  If you want to research udev
and upower, and udisks etc.. please do.  If there is a better solution
for mounting drives I want it!!  And once people have this ISO we can
see what works and what doesn't.

I think even a slightly heavy Alpha RC2 is better.  There will be
fluctuation when we are building the OS.  At one point the image went up
to 750+ MB for a while (10 or 15 builds)  But once I got things situated
I was able to trim the size down.  Right now everything works, and the
image is 680ish MB  Those are two REALLY important things.  We can test
things out, and see how it works.  We can also test using PCManFM
instead of Rox/Udiskie  or using Rox + some homebrew version.  The main
thing we need is a working product.  If it works, but is not optimized,
we can tweak it.
I am not worried so much about the current size/consumption.  If it
works on our target machine 128MB RAM, then we are getting close to a
Beta.  There will be no HUGE refactoring and rebuilding.  It will now be
tweaking.  So don't worry about it.  I am just relieved we are getting
closer!!  I have probably built ToriOS close to 100 times now :P

If you missed my previous e-mail, I may not be at the meeting in the
right time.  I probably can't make it until 2200gmt or so... which is
too late for some people (I think... )



On 10/11/2014 12:43 AM, Ali Linx wrote:
>
> On 10/11/2014 03:55 PM, Israel wrote:
>> Hi,
>
> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am uploading RC2 currently :)
>
> Good luck with that :)
>> It should be ready for the meeting tomorrow.
>
> No rush!
>
>> I have tested it in a VM multiple times, as well as on a real
>> computer.  I have not burned it to CD and tested it on the oldest
>> computer.
>>
>> So...
>> It works, though I need a temporary hack to work around an issue...
>> but it has worked on virtual and real machines of different
>> configurations... so it *should* work.
>> It is running a bit higher in memory though :(
>> It is now close to 78MB .... but we have auto mounting of drives
>> (which can be disabled through the Autostart)  and power management
>> (same)
>> So, for a desktop you don't need power management.... really.
>> And if you don't want automounting you don't *have* to have it.
>>
>> But... in all reality it is lean and runs quickly.
>> We will all need to test this heavily and work out any issues we have
>> found...  but if this does work (mostly) for everyone then we can
>> bump this to Beta and fix the minor issues and add the other programs
>> in before the final release.
>>
>> There are so many improvements over the last version... I don't know
>> what to list :)
>> Though a lot of those things are 'invisible'  there are some very
>> visible things
>>
>> Wireless should 'just work'.  Shutdown should 'just work'.  Inserting
>> media should 'just work'.  Sound should 'just work'
>> If any of those fail, please let me know, so I can look into it.  I
>> will also be testing this.  I will be installing things and trying to
>> use it like normal....  I will also install it on the "Tori"
>> Machine... it currently has a lot of memory [ 128+256 ]  but I will
>> also test it with less.
>> I have tested it in a VM with 128 and it works fine (so far anyhow)
>> I am actually surprised.... it runs a modern OS on those computers,
>> much like the outdated OS ran... but with modern apps, and security :)
>> I will let you all know more about my testing later
>
> I will repeat what I have mentioned many times before :D
>
> NO RUSH!
> No, I am not shouting, just a highlight :D
>
> Before going to Beta, WE (we as a team and ToriOS as a system) must be
> fully ready for that. Why? because after Beta, there is 1.0 and the
> real Q is: are WE (us + the system) ready yet?
>
> The answer as far as I can see is not yet. We are ready for Alpha but
> not yet for Beta. System wise, team wise, we are not yet ready. Maybe
> we should talk about that at the meeting - when is that by the way?!
>
> The 'more' memory usage is NOT good news at all. Regardless what is
> the reason, it is bad news. We need to be careful here. Yes, the less,
> the better. This is going to be super helpful with marketing.
>
> Also, we must be very careful. Now, the world has started to look at
> ToriOS more closely ;)
>
> I have contacted two well-known websites and ToriOS is listed now on
> their database so we must be extra careful ...
>
> I think the meeting is needed for this week so let's see ...
>
>
>>
>> On 10/10/2014 11:12 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/08/2014 01:42 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>>> I have asked the team to do so long time back but none has done it
>>>> so I have done it myself :)
>>>>
>>>> We suppose to have a marketing group but this is super inactive and
>>>> I am not happy about this at all.
>>>>
>>>> This action - unlike what you may think of it - is going to be very
>>>> helpful. We do need more attention. I am not sure how many people
>>>> are visiting our website per day/week but let's hope if ToriOS will
>>>> be added to DistroWatch.com ... let's hope this will bring more
>>>> attention.
>>>>
>>>> I shall carry on with doing whatever I could whenever I can to
>>>> spread the word ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> As per the below forwarded email:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: 	ToriOS
>>>> Date: 	Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:39:19 +1100
>>>> From: 	Ali Linx <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: 	distro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear DistroWatch Administrators,
>>>>
>>>> Greetings :)
>>>>
>>>> I am the founder of ToriOS Project:
>>>> http://torios.org/
>>>>
>>>> A side from ToriOS, I am involved with many other projects as well:
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
>>>>
>>>> We would like to add ToriOS to DistroWatch and yes, I have read:
>>>> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=submit
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ali/amjjawad
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#new
>>>
>>> ToriOS now on DistroWatch.com Database and by Monday, let's hope
>>> they will mention it on the Weekly Updates :D
>>>
>>> Being on No.1 GNU/Linux online database is a huge achievement if you
>>> ask me. If you read the requirements to be listed, I think we have
>>> completed many if not all so most likely, it will be listed and not
>>> just sit in the waiting list ... let's hope :)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ali/amjjawad
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Ali/amjjawad
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad


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