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[Ali Linx <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfc64j7wy2ygow0/ToriOS-alpha.iso?dl=0
MD5SUM: 8c525b2d5fa7972e1dfbd4541c0f2fbe

This Feedback is about running ToriOS LiveCD:

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LiveCD
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(1) When I click on the time and date, a pop up small window shows up 
with clock. Can we change that? I don't find this useful at all. Is it 
possible to see a calender for example? just like other systems?

(2)  I liked the menu :) it only shows the available categories and apps 
:) much better. I wonder if we add an application later, will that be 
added? let's try this.

(3) Menu > Network > Mail Client = does not work.
And, we do not need a mail client neither with the LiveCD nor the 
installed system. Remember, we are offering a base system so the user 
can start to build his/her own system.

(4) Links 2 does not show pictures - I tested www.torios.org

(5) Memory usage on the idle desktop with htop opened: 68MB

(6) When I do: Menu > Network > Wicd Network Manager: it takes 78MB so 
+10MB more.

(7) I don't like Bitmap and I'd vote to remove it. Not sure though which 
alternative we should use?!

(8) I don't know why I can not install Synaptic from the terminal and I 
don't know why it is not included on the LiveCD?

(9) I can't install any application from terminal: I always get:

Reading package lists ... error!
E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)
E: Can't mmap any empty file
E: Failed to truncate file - ftruncate (9: Bad file descriptor)
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

Yes, this is from the LiveCD.

(10) GParted worked.

(11) Menu > System > Startup Program, Desktop Settings, Font Settings, 
Icon Settings, Keyboard Settings, Mouse Settings, Panel Settings and 
Window Settings = don't work

Theme Settings = works

JWM Settings Manager = works

And, if I try to launch all the above tools/programs from "JMW Settings 
Manager" ... they don't work as well. Only Theme Settings.

Wait ...

I chose a theme: GNOME 2 Light Theme and the desktop and the panel 
disappeared.
Had to reboot.

When I rebooted and logged in again to the Live Session, all the above 
tools worked. I couldn't get them to start before, now, I can. I will 
try to re-produce that bug/behavior.

(12) I can't open files on the LiveCD: whether these files are pdf, 
images, text ... I just can't open these nor I can see any option on the 
menu to 'Open' a file :( this is not new. I have experienced that before 
with the previous builds.

(13) Is there another power manager rather than xfce power manager? just 
asking .. not that there is something against xfce but just wondering. 
If there is a lighter manager maybe?

(14) I clicked "reload desktop" and RAM usage is 62MB now.

(15) Auto-Start programs when I tried to run it, it crashed the desktop 
so the wallpapes disappeared and got blank and black wallpaper. Reload 
the desktop fixed it.

(16) From JWM Manager, I chose Panel and when I did, the desktop crashed 
again and everything was keep restarting or flashing .. the wallpaper, 
the panel and the two running windows (htop window and Setting Manager 
window) and after 1-2 mins, it became stable again. I repeated the 
previous step twice and got the same behavior. I can see it is 
restarting the power manager, the volume, the network, etc and it is 
fast but not very so I still can read what is going on. Not sure what is 
going on?! okay, tried that for the 3rd time and now, everything is 
frozen including the mouse cursor. I need to reboot the VM now.

Okay, VM rebooted and it seems something has crashed yet again (Menu > 
JWM Manager > Panel).

(17) I decided to stop playing with the Live CD and install the system.
I chose the advanced way in OBI and I chose the partitions manually.

System installed now.

That is my full report for the Live CD.

Is there anything else specific that I need to do? if yes, let me know, 
please :)

Summary:
It is getting better and better everytime I'm asked to test. WELL DONE! 
can't wait to see Beta ;)

Suggestion:

(1) If Beta is out with as minimum bugs as possible, we might ask people 
to install ToriOS on real hardware and if we failed to do that, we could 
do that ourselves. If we can stay with Beta for 1-3 months, with many 
using it, this is great way to improve the system and get people 
involved. When they hear Alpha, they stay away. Beta should make people 
more comfortable with a proper marketing ;) this will buy some time for us.

(2) I'd suggest starting from Beta to use Launchpad to report bugs 
against ToriOS. This will be helpful for us and make us more open with 
people. Also, it means we are serious and we are working professionally.

I guess that is all for now ...

Thank you!


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