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Re: Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

 

On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:
I agree with A. Grandi! The alternate installer is *much* more stable
than any live CD. And what about SSH installation?

I second the community vote idea, as well. The other *buntus are very
likely to follow suit, so I believe in at least giving the public a
heads-up.

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A. Byrne

On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:23 AM, "a.grandi@xxxxxxxxx" <a.grandi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!
so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.

Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
after installation and risking to loose my data.

Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.

I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
make Ubuntu worse than it is,
We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.

Best regards,

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Andrea Grandi - Nokia-DX/Tampere / Qt Ambassador
Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it

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As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to post them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If you remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID support didn't quite happen.

Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if you wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative installer) you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.


Nicholas


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